Backdoor to socialized medicine?

[briansd1]

[quote=Jim Jones]
Businessweek.com has a good story on it:

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-26/at-t-to-take-1-billion-charge-on-health-care-reform-update1-.html
[/quote]

As I said before a $1 billion non-cash charge results in a $350 million IMMEDIATE cash tax savings (if the tax rate is 35%). It could be more or less depending on the tax rate.

A public’s company EPS would drop and that may affect stock price. But private companies would definitely want to accelerate write-offs to immediately lower taxes.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale] brian wants a nanny state and nothing you, I or anyone else brings to the table in the debate is going to change his mind.[/quote]

Nanny state?

No, I don’t want a nanny state.

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

I’m all for cutting war spending or real estate industry subsidies, or taxing junk food. There are other ways of fixing our fiscal mess.

But, yeah, health care is a fundamental right.

I don’t think that it’s useful to throw about hyperbole such as communism, tyranny and Armageddon without even understanding the policy.

How about looking at the details of what the Health Care Bill actually does before opposing it based on irrational ideological fears? I thought that Piggs were more intelligent than that.

BTW, the only reason I started participating in the political threads here is to counteract the irrational hyperbole that was being thrown about — things such as “I hate communism and I don’t want anymore government.” Only children think that way.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale] brian wants a nanny state and nothing you, I or anyone else brings to the table in the debate is going to change his mind.[/quote]

Nanny state?

No, I don’t want a nanny state.

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

I’m all for cutting war spending or real estate industry subsidies, or taxing junk food. There are other ways of fixing our fiscal mess.

But, yeah, health care is a fundamental right.

I don’t think that it’s useful to throw about hyperbole such as communism, tyranny and Armageddon without even understanding the policy.

How about looking at the details of what the Health Care Bill actually does before opposing it based on irrational ideological fears? I thought that Piggs were more intelligent than that.

BTW, the only reason I started participating in the political threads here is to counteract the irrational hyperbole that was being thrown about — things such as “I hate communism and I don’t want anymore government.” Only children think that way.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale] brian wants a nanny state and nothing you, I or anyone else brings to the table in the debate is going to change his mind.[/quote]

Nanny state?

No, I don’t want a nanny state.

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

I’m all for cutting war spending or real estate industry subsidies, or taxing junk food. There are other ways of fixing our fiscal mess.

But, yeah, health care is a fundamental right.

I don’t think that it’s useful to throw about hyperbole such as communism, tyranny and Armageddon without even understanding the policy.

How about looking at the details of what the Health Care Bill actually does before opposing it based on irrational ideological fears? I thought that Piggs were more intelligent than that.

BTW, the only reason I started participating in the political threads here is to counteract the irrational hyperbole that was being thrown about — things such as “I hate communism and I don’t want anymore government.” Only children think that way.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale] brian wants a nanny state and nothing you, I or anyone else brings to the table in the debate is going to change his mind.[/quote]

Nanny state?

No, I don’t want a nanny state.

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

I’m all for cutting war spending or real estate industry subsidies, or taxing junk food. There are other ways of fixing our fiscal mess.

But, yeah, health care is a fundamental right.

I don’t think that it’s useful to throw about hyperbole such as communism, tyranny and Armageddon without even understanding the policy.

How about looking at the details of what the Health Care Bill actually does before opposing it based on irrational ideological fears? I thought that Piggs were more intelligent than that.

BTW, the only reason I started participating in the political threads here is to counteract the irrational hyperbole that was being thrown about — things such as “I hate communism and I don’t want anymore government.” Only children think that way.

[briansd1]

[quote=meadandale] brian wants a nanny state and nothing you, I or anyone else brings to the table in the debate is going to change his mind.[/quote]

Nanny state?

No, I don’t want a nanny state.

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

I’m all for cutting war spending or real estate industry subsidies, or taxing junk food. There are other ways of fixing our fiscal mess.

But, yeah, health care is a fundamental right.

I don’t think that it’s useful to throw about hyperbole such as communism, tyranny and Armageddon without even understanding the policy.

How about looking at the details of what the Health Care Bill actually does before opposing it based on irrational ideological fears? I thought that Piggs were more intelligent than that.

BTW, the only reason I started participating in the political threads here is to counteract the irrational hyperbole that was being thrown about — things such as “I hate communism and I don’t want anymore government.” Only children think that way.

[scaredyclassic]

i wish the state would provide more nannies.

[scaredyclassic]

i wish the state would provide more nannies.

[scaredyclassic]

i wish the state would provide more nannies.

[scaredyclassic]

i wish the state would provide more nannies.

[scaredyclassic]

i wish the state would provide more nannies.

[Hobie]

[quote=briansd1]

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

[/quote]

Not in our Constitution. We already provide health care to all. Emergency rooms, local clinics, Medicare, Medicaid. The problem is forcing Americans to buy insurance is the core issue.

[Hobie]

[quote=briansd1]

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

[/quote]

Not in our Constitution. We already provide health care to all. Emergency rooms, local clinics, Medicare, Medicaid. The problem is forcing Americans to buy insurance is the core issue.

[Hobie]

[quote=briansd1]

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

[/quote]

Not in our Constitution. We already provide health care to all. Emergency rooms, local clinics, Medicare, Medicaid. The problem is forcing Americans to buy insurance is the core issue.

[Hobie]

[quote=briansd1]

Health care is a human right and we need to find a way to provide that to all our citizens.

[/quote]

Not in our Constitution. We already provide health care to all. Emergency rooms, local clinics, Medicare, Medicaid. The problem is forcing Americans to buy insurance is the core issue.

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