Back to the Office for Tech Workers

[an]

[quote=sdrealtor]Always a bridesmaid never the bride[/quote]
LoL

I don’t know what I’m hoping for more, repeat of 2008 or repeat of late 70s. Either way, there will be a lot of pain for a lot of people. So, maybe neither.

[Coronita]

lol

@techroastshow

These guys have it rough #techbro #techie #softwareengineer #siliconvalley #seattle #sanfrancisco #bayarea #engineeringlife #comedy

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[barnaby33]

deadzone wrote:

And let’s face it, if hiring 100% remote is fully normalized, why would I hire a San Diego engineer at 200K when I can get the same productivity out of an Indian engineer for 50K or less?

LoL, no, just no.

Seconded. Having been in IT for 25 years now, that’s a myth. If the Indian/Chinese/Russian was that good, he’d most likely be in the US already.
Josh

[Coronita]

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[Anonymous]

[quote=barnaby33]deadzone wrote:

And let’s face it, if hiring 100% remote is fully normalized, why would I hire a San Diego engineer at 200K when I can get the same productivity out of an Indian engineer for 50K or less?

LoL, no, just no.

Seconded. Having been in IT for 25 years now, that’s a myth. If the Indian/Chinese/Russian was that good, he’d most likely be in the US already.
Josh[/quote]

Perhaps. But it is irrelevant, the majority of white collar workers will go back to the office, at least part time, once Covid is over.
And the entitled, prima donna tech workers who are threatening to quit if forced back to the office can do so. But they better be careful because the job market is not going to be so favorable if this tech bubble crash continues on its current trajectory.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone][quote=barnaby33]deadzone wrote:

And let’s face it, if hiring 100% remote is fully normalized, why would I hire a San Diego engineer at 200K when I can get the same productivity out of an Indian engineer for 50K or less?

LoL, no, just no.

Seconded. Having been in IT for 25 years now, that’s a myth. If the Indian/Chinese/Russian was that good, he’d most likely be in the US already.
Josh[/quote]

Perhaps. But it is irrelevant, the majority of white collar workers will go back to the office, at least part time, once Covid is over.
And the entitled, prima donna tech workers who are threatening to quit if forced back to the office can do so. But they better be careful because the job market is not going to be so favorable if this tech bubble crash continues on its current trajectory.[/quote]

Man,

deadzone tell us how you really feel about tech workers, lol. You definitely have an ax to grind with tech workers. Could it possibly be you once were during the dot.com days and somehow never made it back into tech?

Sour grapes, much?

lol

Tech jobs aren’t necessary opportunites of a lifetime. You might think it that way by seeing others successful at it, but it’s not for everyone and not being in tech doesn’t mean one can’t be successful.

Personally, I’m happy to see finally tech workers making serious $$$$. For years, I thought it was pretty funny that investment bankers make 10x+ more than tech workers was a little strange, lol.

[sdrealtor]

meanwhile out on the streets heard about a few more properties with over 20 offers each in the last week

[an]

[quote=sdrealtor]meanwhile out on the streets heard about a few more properties with over 20 offers each in the last week[/quote]Bubble! have you not learn anything from 2008?

[Anonymous]

[quote=Coronita]
Man,

deadzone tell us how you really feel about tech workers, lol. You definitely have an ax to grind with tech workers. Could it possibly be you once were during the dot.com days and somehow never made it back into tech?

Sour grapes, much?

lol

Tech jobs aren’t necessary opportunites of a lifetime. You might think it that way by seeing others successful at it, but it’s not for everyone and not being in tech doesn’t mean one can’t be successful.

Personally, I’m happy to see finally tech workers making serious $$$$. For years, I thought it was pretty funny that investment bankers make 10x+ more than tech workers was a little strange, lol.[/quote]

No axe to grind at tech workers in general, only towards the entitled, prima donna subset of tech workers (or any industry for that matter). The ones who feel so highly of themselves they really believe they are irreplaceable. Most of these, I suspect, entered the workforce post 2009/2010 recession and only know good times as their careers benefitted from the gale force tailwinds of fed money printing. I’ve seen this before, those same attitudes were common place in the late 90s in the tech industry.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone]
No axe to grind at tech workers in general, only towards the entitled, prima donna subset of tech workers (or any industry for that matter). The ones who feel so highly of themselves they really believe they are irreplaceable. Most of these, I suspect, entered the workforce post 2009/2010 recession and only know good times as their careers benefitted from the gale force tailwinds of fed money printing. I’ve seen this before, those same attitudes were common place in the late 90s in the tech industry.[/quote]

Um, ok if you say so.

Yeah, that’s what people use to say about Qualcomm.

….Back in 94 before the 2:1 stock split.
Then they certainly were finished
… Before the 2:1 stock split in 1999…
Then obviously they were finished with the patent issues…
….Before the 4:1 stock split in Dec 1999….
They were certainly done with all the IP lawsuits….
….Before the 2:1 stock split in 2004
….And clearly they were finished when they were 38/share a few years ago…
That was before Broadcom hostile takeover failed, Intel pulled out of 5G, Apple gave up on 5G and settled….

Tech sure is finished….lol

I’m sure there will be another real estate opportunity of a lifetime . one day.

[sdrealtor]

Agreed! It will just be some else’s lifetime

[Coronita]

Got to go..

OOAL!!!!

Ciao

[an]

[quote=sdrealtor]Agreed! It will just be some else’s lifetime[/quote]
You will never know… No one predicted what happened over the last couple of years. Would be insane if we do see a repeat of the 70s to mid 80s. Would be awesome to see 5-10x gains LoL. Only hindsight will we know if it’ll be an opportunity of a lifetime or not. Let’s revisit this thread in 2035.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Coronita][quote=deadzone]
No axe to grind at tech workers in general, only towards the entitled, prima donna subset of tech workers (or any industry for that matter). The ones who feel so highly of themselves they really believe they are irreplaceable. Most of these, I suspect, entered the workforce post 2009/2010 recession and only know good times as their careers benefitted from the gale force tailwinds of fed money printing. I’ve seen this before, those same attitudes were common place in the late 90s in the tech industry.[/quote]

Um, ok if you say so.

Yeah, that’s what people use to say about Qualcomm.

….Back in 94 before the 2:1 stock split.
Then they certainly were finished
… Before the 2:1 stock split in 1999…
Then obviously they were finished with the patent issues…
….Before the 4:1 stock split in Dec 1999….
They were certainly done with all the IP lawsuits….
….Before the 2:1 stock split in 2004
….And clearly they were finished when they were 38/share a few years ago…
That was before Broadcom hostile takeover failed, Intel pulled out of 5G, Apple gave up on 5G and settled….

Tech sure is finished….lol

I’m sure there will be another real estate opportunity of a lifetime . one day.[/quote]

What does Qualcomm have to do with it? Nobody is predicting the “demise” of tech. But the industry is clearly too big for its britches right now and that is because it’s been boosted to bubble heights by artificial money pumping by Fed, just like late 90s VC money was flowing like beer at a Frat party. When the money machine stops, there will be a lot of tech workers on the street. We’ll see how that entitled attitude of “I’ll quit if I can’t work from home in my PJs” works out then.

[JPJones]

[quote=deadzone][quote=Coronita]
Man,

deadzone tell us how you really feel about tech workers, lol. You definitely have an ax to grind with tech workers. Could it possibly be you once were during the dot.com days and somehow never made it back into tech?

Sour grapes, much?

lol

Tech jobs aren’t necessary opportunites of a lifetime. You might think it that way by seeing others successful at it, but it’s not for everyone and not being in tech doesn’t mean one can’t be successful.

Personally, I’m happy to see finally tech workers making serious $$$$. For years, I thought it was pretty funny that investment bankers make 10x+ more than tech workers was a little strange, lol.[/quote]

No axe to grind at tech workers in general, only towards the entitled, prima donna subset of tech workers (or any industry for that matter). The ones who feel so highly of themselves they really believe they are irreplaceable. Most of these, I suspect, entered the workforce post 2009/2010 recession and only know good times as their careers benefitted from the gale force tailwinds of fed money printing. I’ve seen this before, those same attitudes were common place in the late 90s in the tech industry.[/quote]

Jesus, dude. Who hurt you? You say you have no axe to grind, then proceed to grind an axe.

Anyhow, good tech workers are literally irreplaceable right now. The type of shortage we’re seeing isn’t going to correct itself in a year or two, and for that matter, we aren’t even talking tech workers at this point. WFH is a normal part of benefits packages for every white collar job across every industry now. The cat is out of the bag, and smarter business people than us have figured out how much full-time remote work has increased productivity. (SPOILERS: it’s a lot)

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