are there new homes in SD without HOA?

[briansd1]

[quote=walterwhite]Urban chickens are hot.

All the cool people have a few.[/quote]

Very true.

I have friends how have a chicken coop in an HOA of upscale suburban houses in OC. They didn’t even ask HOA permission and nobody said anything. They have a great setup where the chicken coop can be easily hosed off and cleaned. It looks great.

I’m encouraging my dad to get a chicken coop so we can share fresh eggs.

Would you kill the chicken and eat them? You’re supposed to periodically get new chicks and eat the old chicken.

BTW, they have two birds, cats, a dog. The kids love it and they are allergy immune.

[UCGal]

fwiw, HOA’s aren’t the only way to get some restrictions on your property. My home in PA was deed restricted by the original subdivision covenant (circa 1890). I was not allowed to have a commercial stable, have a manure pit, run a tannery, or run a boarding house. That last one actually caused me some concern because I did have a roommate paying me rent. Not sure if neighbors were in violation of the covenant when they bought commercial steer manure to augment their veggie garden.

There was no enforcement arm that I’m aware of though.

I have the old covenant docs… They weren’t disclosed to me till settlement so I had to do some speed reading to make sure I could live with the conditions. I’ll have to dig them up and re-read them.

[bearishgurl]

[quote=UCGal]fwiw, HOA’s aren’t the only way to get some restrictions on your property. My home in PA was deed restricted by the original subdivision covenant (circa 1890). I was not allowed to have a commercial stable, have a manure pit, run a tannery, or run a boarding house. That last one actually caused me some concern because I did have a roommate paying me rent. Not sure if neighbors were in violation of the covenant when they bought commercial steer manure to augment their veggie garden.

There was no enforcement arm that I’m aware of though.

I have the old covenant docs… They weren’t disclosed to me till settlement so I had to do some speed reading to make sure I could live with the conditions. I’ll have to dig them up and re-read them.[/quote]

LOL, UCGal, the “CC&R’s” of yesteryear were amusing, to say the least (if not both discriminatory and amusing). Obviously, there were no HOA’s in place when they were written but our “forebears” must have thought they were “necessary” (to keep the encumbered area “city-like” and from being “run-down”) ….. :=0

Many older tracts within the City of SD and surrounding cities still have antiquated CC&R’s on title.

[Essbee]

I live in Clairemont and have HOA!

[svelte]

It is interesting that virtually no new home developments are sans-HOA. Thinking about it a bit, I am theorizing that developers like to put HOAs on their developments to keep new owners in line while they finish the buildout.

After all, all HOAs that I’ve seen state that the developer controls the HOA until buildout is complete (or near complete). That gives them a big stick to make sure new owners keep their lots looking nice for when prospective homebuyers drive by on their way to the model homes…

[CDMA ENG]

[quote=UCGal][quote=temeculaguy]

For every hoa horror story you may hear, I can tell you about the giant peeing baby fountain in a neighbors front yard, or the baby blue house, or the raiders sheets as curtains for four years, the year round christmas lights, the 9 cars out front, the corn instead of lawn, the urban chickens, the smell of curry in the air 24 hours a day, the monster trucks, boats and dunebuggies on the lawn, the yard appliances, the perimeter fence at a tract house, the weekly garage sales, the unmowed lawns, the trash cans permanently at the curb, the constant rv storage and I’m sure a few other things that you can avoid for the bargain price of $30-$90 a month (what my various hoa’s have been over the years at different houses). We all live together now, we accept each other, but we gotta have a few basic rules. Just pay it, I’ve found it to be some of the best money I’ve ever spent. When I was young I avoided hoa’s cause I was cheap, now it’s a requirement.
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You say all that like it’s a bad thing?

As someone who’s trying to talk her husband into urban chickens, and has flowering groundcover instead of lawn in the front, I don’t want someone telling me how to landscape or what (LEGAL) pets I can have. (no worries to my UC brethren, I won’t get a rooster.) I have neighbors with RV’s and boats in their side yards. I’m fine with that. We have big enough lots to accomodate it. They can’t legally park boats/rv’s/cars on the street for more than 3 days – so that’s not an issue.

As far as the trash cans – you are legally limited to 24 hours before/after trash pick up… so again, that’s covered without an HOA.

For me, HOA’s that provide swimming, tennis, etc… that’s giving a value. But an HOA that imposes rules and doesn’t give me benefit other than making the neighborhood cookie cutter… I’ll leave that for those that prefer a more Stepford neighborhood.

I’m not sure how racist neighborhood restrictions equate to HOAs… La Jolla was famous for not allowing Jews to purchase. Obviously, that got eliminated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Jolla#Antisemitism%5B/quote%5D

A Jewish friend of mine told me they use to jokingly call it “La Goy-a”.

Perfect.

CE

[svelte]

[quote=UCGal]
As someone who’s trying to talk her husband into urban chickens,… I don’t want someone telling me how to landscape or what (LEGAL) pets I can have.

… an HOA that imposes rules and doesn’t give me benefit other than making the neighborhood cookie cutter… I’ll leave that for those that prefer a more Stepford neighborhood.
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So it’s you we need protection from! I would probably not appreciate chickens next door, that’s for sure.

The biggest problem you personally would have had with an HOA is that there is a fair chance it wouldn’t have allowed your granny flat, depending on how the HOA docs were written. Since your flat overlooks the neighbors down the hill, there is little doubt they would have objected to the HOA board.

[UCGal]

Probably true that an HOA would have restricted it.
As it was the neighbors were very nervous until they saw that it was a nice design. We’ve gotten lots of complements from the neighbors, including the ones below us.

How did you know we have neighbors below us?

[svelte]

[quote=UCGal]
How did you know we have neighbors below us?[/quote]

From everything you’ve said on here, it narrows it down rather quickly. I can’t remember if the light bulb went off on one of my trips to UC or while perusing Google Maps researching a house on the market, but at some point it became clear.

Your posts since then have reinforced that.

[Anonymous]

My dad used to work on his 1946 Globe Swift in our driveway in Reseda. We were renting. There was no HOA, but the neighbors complained, and he relocated it to the old airport in Simi Valley.

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