Are federal workers overpaid? Avg 123k?? It’s insane!

[jficquette]

[quote=flu][quote=briansd1][quote=flu]

The only thing you can really do is to shore up your own/family financial situation so that when the crap hits the fan (and it will hit the fan), you are at less screwed than other people. Everything else is window dressing.[/quote]

You can take care of your family and still care about society at large at the same time. No?[/quote]

Well, for a minority of people, yes…Those are the ones that are true altruists. You see them working/volunteering at food banks, helping out poor, helping out Katrina victims, helping our natural disaster victims,etc. The majority rest of the people might have lofty ideas, but very little in terms of actionable actions, and imho just grandstanding and postulating…

The true altruists…great for them. I admire them.. I’m not one of them…And I don’t bother pretending to be one with high preachy morales/ethics/whatever (though it doesn’t necessarily mean I don’t have any either).[/quote]

Those people tend to be conservatives. Liberals can be found at PETA.

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[quote jimmyle]
One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.
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The companies that do internet sales are starting to have to file reports on sales across the internet.. so that states can get you on the ‘Use tax’.. with California leading the charge.

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[quote jimmyle]
One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.
[/quote]
The companies that do internet sales are starting to have to file reports on sales across the internet.. so that states can get you on the ‘Use tax’.. with California leading the charge.

[ucodegen]

[quote jimmyle]
One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.
[/quote]
The companies that do internet sales are starting to have to file reports on sales across the internet.. so that states can get you on the ‘Use tax’.. with California leading the charge.

[ucodegen]

[quote jimmyle]
One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.
[/quote]
The companies that do internet sales are starting to have to file reports on sales across the internet.. so that states can get you on the ‘Use tax’.. with California leading the charge.

[ucodegen]

[quote jimmyle]
One thing you can do is cheat on Taxes and make sure they don’t catch you. Start buying online.
[/quote]
The companies that do internet sales are starting to have to file reports on sales across the internet.. so that states can get you on the ‘Use tax’.. with California leading the charge.

[Coronita]

[quote=jficquette][quote=flu][quote=jficquette]We are talking double the pay for private employees. Double the pay for jobs that are mostly unneeded.[/quote]

Well, if you’re better off taking one of those positions, then apply for one.[/quote]

For the twice the pay lets all sign up.[/quote]

Sorry, for me, that would be a paycut. Like I said, the best way to not get bent out shape over this is just make more money. Period.

But seriously, waste is waste. It really doesn’t matter who’s in office. Just where the waste is going. If you haven’t figured it out, keep figuring.

[Coronita]

[quote=jficquette][quote=flu][quote=jficquette]We are talking double the pay for private employees. Double the pay for jobs that are mostly unneeded.[/quote]

Well, if you’re better off taking one of those positions, then apply for one.[/quote]

For the twice the pay lets all sign up.[/quote]

Sorry, for me, that would be a paycut. Like I said, the best way to not get bent out shape over this is just make more money. Period.

But seriously, waste is waste. It really doesn’t matter who’s in office. Just where the waste is going. If you haven’t figured it out, keep figuring.

[Coronita]

[quote=jficquette][quote=flu][quote=jficquette]We are talking double the pay for private employees. Double the pay for jobs that are mostly unneeded.[/quote]

Well, if you’re better off taking one of those positions, then apply for one.[/quote]

For the twice the pay lets all sign up.[/quote]

Sorry, for me, that would be a paycut. Like I said, the best way to not get bent out shape over this is just make more money. Period.

But seriously, waste is waste. It really doesn’t matter who’s in office. Just where the waste is going. If you haven’t figured it out, keep figuring.

[Coronita]

[quote=jficquette][quote=flu][quote=jficquette]We are talking double the pay for private employees. Double the pay for jobs that are mostly unneeded.[/quote]

Well, if you’re better off taking one of those positions, then apply for one.[/quote]

For the twice the pay lets all sign up.[/quote]

Sorry, for me, that would be a paycut. Like I said, the best way to not get bent out shape over this is just make more money. Period.

But seriously, waste is waste. It really doesn’t matter who’s in office. Just where the waste is going. If you haven’t figured it out, keep figuring.

[Coronita]

[quote=jficquette][quote=flu][quote=jficquette]We are talking double the pay for private employees. Double the pay for jobs that are mostly unneeded.[/quote]

Well, if you’re better off taking one of those positions, then apply for one.[/quote]

For the twice the pay lets all sign up.[/quote]

Sorry, for me, that would be a paycut. Like I said, the best way to not get bent out shape over this is just make more money. Period.

But seriously, waste is waste. It really doesn’t matter who’s in office. Just where the waste is going. If you haven’t figured it out, keep figuring.

[jficquette]

Well there are jobs that pay a lot more than the average. Odds are you would make more with the Feds.

Here is some more information on pay scales for comparable positions. Lol @ Pest Control work, Fed/$49k, Private/$34K. You also have to add in the benefits.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm#chart

Also in the same article:

“Federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data finds.
Accountants, nurses, chemists, surveyors, cooks, clerks and janitors are among the wide range of jobs that get paid more on average in the federal government than in the private sector.

Overall, federal workers earned an average salary of $67,691 in 2008 for occupations that exist both in government and the private sector, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data. The average pay for the same mix of jobs in the private sector was $60,046 in 2008, the most recent data available.”

“These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008 vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm

[jficquette]

Well there are jobs that pay a lot more than the average. Odds are you would make more with the Feds.

Here is some more information on pay scales for comparable positions. Lol @ Pest Control work, Fed/$49k, Private/$34K. You also have to add in the benefits.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm#chart

Also in the same article:

“Federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data finds.
Accountants, nurses, chemists, surveyors, cooks, clerks and janitors are among the wide range of jobs that get paid more on average in the federal government than in the private sector.

Overall, federal workers earned an average salary of $67,691 in 2008 for occupations that exist both in government and the private sector, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data. The average pay for the same mix of jobs in the private sector was $60,046 in 2008, the most recent data available.”

“These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008 vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm

[jficquette]

Well there are jobs that pay a lot more than the average. Odds are you would make more with the Feds.

Here is some more information on pay scales for comparable positions. Lol @ Pest Control work, Fed/$49k, Private/$34K. You also have to add in the benefits.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm#chart

Also in the same article:

“Federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data finds.
Accountants, nurses, chemists, surveyors, cooks, clerks and janitors are among the wide range of jobs that get paid more on average in the federal government than in the private sector.

Overall, federal workers earned an average salary of $67,691 in 2008 for occupations that exist both in government and the private sector, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data. The average pay for the same mix of jobs in the private sector was $60,046 in 2008, the most recent data available.”

“These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008 vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm

[jficquette]

Well there are jobs that pay a lot more than the average. Odds are you would make more with the Feds.

Here is some more information on pay scales for comparable positions. Lol @ Pest Control work, Fed/$49k, Private/$34K. You also have to add in the benefits.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm#chart

Also in the same article:

“Federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations, a USA TODAY analysis of federal data finds.
Accountants, nurses, chemists, surveyors, cooks, clerks and janitors are among the wide range of jobs that get paid more on average in the federal government than in the private sector.

Overall, federal workers earned an average salary of $67,691 in 2008 for occupations that exist both in government and the private sector, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data. The average pay for the same mix of jobs in the private sector was $60,046 in 2008, the most recent data available.”

“These salary figures do not include the value of health, pension and other benefits, which averaged $40,785 per federal employee in 2008 vs. $9,882 per private worker, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-03-04-federal-pay_N.htm

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