Amazon and housing

[OROG]

My prediction is (jaws will drop), it’ll be the region of East Chula Vista, Otay Ranch, Eastlake, and the border area which is part of the City of San Diego including Brown Field. The missing requirement is a University, but Chula Vista has acquired 375 acres for a University and Innovation District.

The infrastucture in East Chula is great and MTS is expanding services to link downtown SD, East Chula and the Otay port of entry: http://www.keepsandiegomoving.com/SouthBayRapid_Home/south_bay_rapid1.aspx

Also, for added appeal: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/tourism/sd-fi-chula-convention-20170620-story.html

SD is getting some consideration for Amazon’s expansion: http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Amazon-Signs-Lease-For-New-Office-in–444475563.html

[FlyerInHi]

Chula Vista would be an awesome location if we ever get immigration reform and workers with work permits could travel freely in a North American trade zone.

There was a lot of talk in the past about a bi-national airport and the like. The San Diego/Tijuana region could be a Pacific trading hub.

[FlyerInHi]

I believe there’s a 95% chance of Amazon choosing a metro that has an ikea store.
They are not competitors and complement one another well.

There is no Ikea store in Austin but there is a store in Frisco/Dallas.
Edit: Opps, I was wrong. There is a store in Round Rock, outside Austin. The google map is not accurate.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1MgL0CczxfM-xIlQ55N8cn2joCGQ&hl=en_US&ll=37.65958611249873%2C-98.3271704302166&z=3

http://m.ikea.com/us/en/pages/local_stores/mls_store_home_page/

[svelte]

[quote=FlyerInHi]I believe there’s a 95% chance of Amazon choosing a metro that has an ikea store.
They are not competitors and complement one another well.

[/quote]

I believe there is a 100% chance of Amazon choosing a metro area that has a McDonald’s. They don’t compete and complement each other well.

Hey, I can associate two unrelated facts too.

[FlyerInHi]

Svelte, i meant to say that Ikea is a benefit to Amazon employees, kinda like many people want to be near Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s.

[livinincali]

I’m guessing somewhere in Virginia. Either Northern VA or Richmond.

[Anonymous]

It will be someplace with a warm climate.

[kev374]

I am reading in a lot of places that Atlanta has the top shot at this now just because of it’s geographic location, Amazon wants to have a HQ closer to the East coast, it’s the biggest airline hub in the country, serves as a terminus for a lot of road traffic, has a huge amount of tech talent, strong economy, good universities and schools, relatively affordable housing (at least for now), relatively good weather, in addition Georgia is giving $1 billion in incentives etc.

[spdrun]

Atlanta or NoVA can take Amazon — hope they enjoy higher rents, more businesses focused towards pretentious hipsters as opposed to normal humans, and more traffic. Just glad that NYC isn’t offering incentives (corporate welfare) to the wreckers.

If Amazon picks the NYC area, let them stay on Staten Island or move to NJ.

[poorgradstudent]

[quote=kev374]I am reading in a lot of places that Atlanta has the top shot at this now just because of it’s geographic location, Amazon wants to have a HQ closer to the East coast, it’s the biggest airline hub in the country, serves as a terminus for a lot of road traffic, has a huge amount of tech talent, strong economy, good universities and schools, relatively affordable housing (at least for now), relatively good weather, in addition Georgia is giving $1 billion in incentives etc.[/quote]

Atlanta minimally is a finalist.

[ucodegen]

[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=kev374]I am reading in a lot of places that Atlanta has the top shot at this now just because of it’s geographic location, Amazon wants to have a HQ closer to the East coast, it’s the biggest airline hub in the country, serves as a terminus for a lot of road traffic, has a huge amount of tech talent, strong economy, good universities and schools, relatively affordable housing (at least for now), relatively good weather, in addition Georgia is giving $1 billion in incentives etc.[/quote]

Atlanta minimally is a finalist.[/quote]
The problem with Atlanta is that there is too much traffic. It might look good at first blush, but I you try flying though Atlanta, you find the problem with too much traffic. Per 2015 Census, the following are cities with more than 1 million; New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Jose. Looking at being located more central to US (and Mexico), that brings it down to Houston, San Antonio, Dallas. Dallas is #4 of top busiest airports. If you factor busiest by cargo, it is Memphis International, followed by Anchorage – Dallas is #9 and Atlanta does not even appear.

Atlanta has 5 runways (1 longer than 12,000ft, 4 at 9,000ft +), Dallas Ft Worth has 7 runways (4 at 13,000ft +, 2 at 9000ft+ and 1 at 8000ft+). Cargo planes tend to need longer runways. Atlanta’s runways all go east-west, Dallas Ft Worth has 5 east-west runs and 2 diagonal. Winds don’t always blow east/west.

I would hazard by looking at the specs that Dallas, Ft Worth is a likely choice.

When I add in freight rail lines – Atlanta even looks worse. Atlanta is served by 2 major class 1 railroads (CSX, Norfolk Southern – both east coast rails), Dallas, Ft Worth is served by 3 major class 1 railroads (Union Pacific, BNSF, Kansas City Southern – mostly central to west coast, Kansas City runs into Central Mexico) – some of what you get from Amazon has to be shipped ground.

[njtosd]

Detroit!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/790035001

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=njtosd]Detroit!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/790035001
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Detroit would be quite a coup for Detroit and Amazon also. It will mean Detroit is the comeback city. I wish them well.

Dallas or Atlanta are so ho hum business as usual, in the sunbelt.

[FlyerInHi]

[quote=spdrun]Atlanta or NoVA can take Amazon — hope they enjoy higher rents, more businesses focused towards pretentious hipsters as opposed to normal humans, and more traffic. Just glad that NYC isn’t offering incentives (corporate welfare) to the wreckers.

If Amazon picks the NYC area, let them stay on Staten Island or move to NJ.[/quote]

Love how you put things. But pretentious hipsters are necessary evils. Without them, there is no dinero to fix things.

[spdrun]

Detroit is a symbol of everything that’s wrong with America — from exporting the auto industry, car culture, to urban crime, decay, and mismanagement in favor of suburban hellholes. I don’t wish it well, especially not as a host for a parasitic corporation like Amazon.

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