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October 4, 2015 at 8:32 AM #789869October 5, 2015 at 11:05 AM #789896
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GuestLet’s suppose some Mexican or binational kids (a few hundred or a few thousands) are going to school in San Diego.
What’s the harm? They will become little Americans and adopt our culture taking is back to Mexico. That’s good for us.
Obviously those kids and parents can legally enter. If you make it difficult for them to attend school, they’ll just relocate here (because as was mentioned before, they are willing to make extraordinary sacrifices for their kids). So you end up with the same situation.
October 5, 2015 at 11:47 AM #789897bearishgurl
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Let’s suppose some Mexican or binational kids (a few hundred or a few thousands) are going to school in San Diego.
What’s the harm? They will become little Americans and adopt our culture taking is back to Mexico. That’s good for us.
Obviously those kids and parents can legally enter. If you make it difficult for them to attend school, they’ll just relocate here (because as was mentioned before, they are willing to make extraordinary sacrifices for their kids). So you end up with the same situation.[/quote]
I don’t think so . . . when they can rent a 4 bdrm, 2 bath SFR south of the border for $400 – $550 month . . . smaller SFRs are even cheaper.
Not gonna happen. That’s why thousands of US born “non-Hispanic” families and retirees live in BC in reasonably close proximity to SD.
It’s economical living, plain and simple …. and ability to have household help and forge their own deal to do so without all the tax hassles of living in the US.
It’s the same reason you (as a SD Native) are now living in LV, with its oppressive heat more than half the year, FIH. You made this decision to consciously avoid state income tax. Well, “professional couples” (doctors, dentists and lawyers, esp those who work close to the border) LOVE having a FT nanny with a car and a SENTRI pass, and a housekeeper as well. Hence, they are renting in MX (or buying property there if one or both of them are Mexican Nationals or dual citizens).
October 5, 2015 at 11:48 AM #789898GuestDidn’t someone say that immigrants are willing to make housing sacrifices. They could live several household to a house. Convert the garage for extra living space. Enclose the back patio.
If they earn money in CA, they have to pay CA tax. You said the immigrants were dropping off their kids on the way to work in SD
October 5, 2015 at 12:05 PM #789899Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]Didn’t someone say that immigrants are willing to make housing sacrifices. They could live several household to a house. Convert the garage for extra living space. Enclose the back patio.
If they earn money in CA, they have to pay CA tax. You said the immigrants were dropping off their kids on the way to work in SD[/quote]
That’s all been done many, many times, brian … ESP in South County. The house you mentioned here will STILL COST THEM more than $400K in a run-down condition. And the annual property taxes of ~$4700 for such a house are too oppressive, especially for a family of 3+ kids with two service workers for parents … no matter HOW much “seniority” each of them has.
Even a 4/2/2 house located just a stone’s throw from the border rents for at least 4 times the rent of a comparable house on the other side.
Yes, this group pays SS and state income tax. They can eventually have their SS checks direct-deposited to a MX bank (as many US born retirees now do) if they work enough quarters to qualify for OASDI and live long enough to collect it and the program is still in place . . . as long as the SSN they are using to work in the US actually belongs to them and is not a deceased person’s SSN which they bought in dtn LA. Paying CA income tax and Federal tax is the price they pay for having jobs in the US. If they qualify for a refund, they can file a tax return in attempt to claim it. If they do NOT have a legal right to work in the US, they won’t file a return and will forfeit any refund owed them to be able to keep working, hopefully undetected.
October 5, 2015 at 12:16 PM #789900GuestI live in NV because everything has lined up well for me as far as rental investments. But I would not live in NV just to avoid CA income taxes. That’s a bonus, because every year that is don’t pay CA taxes, I can buy/finance an investment condo in LV. So I get a “free” condo every year.
BTW, I love the Vegas bling. It’s raining and nice and cool now. Heat is only 3 months. Better than cold. My utility bill is never over $200. I still have business in SD, so I come back many months each year If I had kids, they could and go to school in SD. There are many ways to setup household, which is what I suspect Mexican immigrants are doing. Maybe the kids do live in San Diego and visit relatives several times per week. You have no way of knowing for sure unless you start a gestapo like investigation.
October 5, 2015 at 12:16 PM #789901ParticipantI haven’t gone into any of my local Dept store “supersales” (usually 9-1 pm Sats) in YEARS because the lines to the registers have two dozen or more people in them at all times, more from 12 noon to 1 pm) and the stores are a wreck where you can’t find anything. WHY? One has to only take a look at the parking lot for the answer to this question.
This “border-crossing shopping group” has a LOT MORE discretionary income (cash sales, NOT credit) than their co-workers, who live in the US. Why?? Their cost of living is so much lower. It’s not uncommon to see several customers at once during these “supersales” with a dozen boxes of shoes sitting on top of one another on the floor next to them in line at the register at Macys … taller than they are.
They whip out $100 bills to pay for them.
October 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM #789902Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]I live in NV because everything has lined up well for me as far as rental investments. But I would not live in NV just to avoid CA income taxes. That’s a bonus, because every year that is don’t pay CA taxes, I can buy/finance an investment condo in LV. So I get a “free” condo every year.
BTW, I love the Vegas bling. It’s raining and nice and cool now. Heat is only 3 months. Better than cold. My utility bill is never over $200. I still have business in SD, so I come back many months each year If I had kids, they could and go to school in SD. There are many ways to setup household, which is what I suspect Mexican immigrants are doing. Maybe the kids do live in San Diego and visit relatives several times per week. You have no way of knowing for sure unless you start a gestapo like investigation.[/quote]
The “gestapo-like investigations” should be done by the school districts. But they won’t ever consider this idea cause they’ll lose a LOT of money if all these students are disenrolled. If it’s been at least 40 years since any housing units were built in the Chula Vista High attendance area because there hasn’t been any room to build housing there and there were only about 378 eligible-age students living in the attendance boundaries (which haven’t been changed) in school year 2000-2001 and now the school has an enrollment of 2788 students (after being “heavily remodeled” instead of closed).
Where do you think all these students are coming from, brian?
CVHS isn’t among the top API-scoring high-schools in the district or county so its not like it had/has hundreds of intra/interdistrict transfer applicants waiting to get a seat there. And only so many students are qualified to participate in their show choirs.
October 5, 2015 at 12:40 PM #789903GuestWhat’s wrong with Mexicans shopping in SD? Tijuana is a big metro are with plenty of middle class and above. We should be happy they are shopping here.
If the school district is happy with the current arrangement, what is the polemic?
Btw, I know a couple who live in temecula. They drop off their kids at school in SD everyday. After school the kids stay with the grandparents until the parents pick them up. What’s wrong with that? The grandparents could well be the legal guardians.
October 5, 2015 at 12:40 PM #789904ParticipantI’m sure there are a lot of US-born parents fraudulently “stealing” seats in certain public schools which their children don’t have the right to attend.
The “caregiver affidavit” is widely used for this. Especially for grandparents’ homes, which are often located in a better school attendance area than the parents can afford.
For example, I’ve witnessed a family name a “grandparent” as a “caregiver” for their kids to attend a certain elementary school and had them sign the affidavit. But the signer was actually was a “great grandparent” who was using a walker (couldn’t drive) and had a caregiver themselves!
This 89-year old couldn’t possibly pick up these children from school, make them lunch or snacks or do anything for these kids. Her great-grandchildren never stayed with her after school but simply used her address for enrollment and mail purposes.
So, yes, today parents (US born or otherwise) will do anything to get their kids enrolled in what they perceive is a “better” public school than the one they have a right to attend.
October 5, 2015 at 12:44 PM #789905Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]What’s wrong with Mexicans shopping in SD? Tijuana is a big metro are with plenty of middle class and above. We should be happy they are shopping here.
If the school district is happy with the current arrangement, what is the polemic?
Btw, I know a couple who live in temecula. They drop off their kids at school in SD everyday. After school the kids stay with the grandparents until the parents pick them up. What’s wrong with that? The grandparents could well be the legal guardians.[/quote]Our posts crossed, brian. See my latest post. Yes, the “caregiver” or “guardianship” affidavit is the main type of ruse used to get one’s children enrolled in a public school outside of their home attendance area … especially for those students who can’t qualify for any other transfer programs.
October 5, 2015 at 12:46 PM #789906ParticipantI have no problem with Mexicans shopping in SD and yes, I KNOW it adds to our economy, exponentially.
I just don’t like dealing with crowds to do mundane errands. I’ve gotten to the point where I’m really tired of them. That’s why I want to “retire” to a locale with a much smaller population.
October 5, 2015 at 1:15 PM #789908GuestSo this whole anti-immigration thing is about your quiet lifestyle. You want the world frozen in time to protect your lifestyle.
See, I like it lively and busy. I want change and I want people already born on this earth to do better. Let them come and create something new. And let us be surprised by the new creations.
You may enjoy this article about people retiring in NY:
October 5, 2015 at 1:54 PM #789910Anonymous
Guest[quote=FlyerInHi]
See, I like it lively and busy. I want change and I want people already born on this earth to do better. Let them come and create something new. And let us be surprised by the new creations.
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You want open borders in other words.
Why couldn’t you just admit this in the first place?
But you have to accept that fact that you are in the extreme minority of American public opinion regarding this. The vast majority of my friends/family are Obama loving Democrats and I don’t know a single person who is in favor of open borders or of amnesty for illegals.
October 5, 2015 at 2:13 PM #789912GuestNot open borders. Very generous immigration quotas so we don’t have immigrants who live in the shadows.
I know I’m on the minority. That’s why we have 11+ million undocumented residents. Really, how is that good for us? Bad humanitarian situation.
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