about switching jobs…

[Coronita]

this guy is a fvcking genius…he takes switching jobs to a whole new level.

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[Coronita]

i laughed…lol.

[XBoxBoy]

Brilliant!

I’ve wondered how many people are doing this. At the company I work, there are a couple people I wonder if they aren’t working another job as well. One programmer has gone over a month checking in nothing, and then when pressed on it, checked in about a days work. (I think he’s playing games all week though, not working two jobs)

Another would do some work, then nothing for a couple weeks, do a bit more and then nothing for another couple weeks. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he doesn’t have multiple jobs.

[an]

This brings new meaning to side hustle LoL

[scaredyclassic]

Subcontract

[Coronita]

[quote=scaredyclassic]Subcontract[/quote]

Actually, two of my guys were joking about this because they work out of Mexico City most of the time. (They have a greencard, but with remote work, they chose to remain in Mexico City)…

I was joking that what they should do is go find 10 of these jobs, and hire 15 engineers in mexico city at 1/5 of the cost of a US engineer and let them do the work….and just manage the work….

They asked if they could do this for their own work in my group. I said, don’t say, dont tell. My only condition is if they could find me a director to at 1/5 my cost….lol

[scaredyclassic]

It’s the logical consequence of corporations outsourcing work. Americans will hold jobs but outsource everything

[Anonymous]

It is so obvious that a large percentage of folks are just effing off most of the time with this work from home situation.
That’s why I don’t believe for a second that this is going to be a permanent or long term shift.

At some point corporations (and even government) are going to have to be productive once all the pandemic related and other corporate handouts wear off.

[svelte]

The first guy mentioned (holds jobs for 2 months, does nothing, gets paid then fired) would never be hired by me because I’d trash-can his resume as soon as I saw the length of his stay at his prior employers.

The hire-folks-to-do-my-work path is riddled with problems. What if those folks steal code and pass it off as their own work? Many companies today check very closely the licensing of software they reuse out of fear of being sued. Not knowing who is “writing” your code and therefore whether any of it is proprietary to another company or covered under some sort of license (BSD, GNU, GPL, MIT, Apache or more restrictive types) leaves the company wide open.

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=deadzone]It is so obvious that a large percentage of folks are just effing off most of the time with this work from home situation. [/quote]

How is that different than all the effing off they were doing while at the office?

[XBoxBoy]

[quote=svelte]The first guy mentioned (holds jobs for 2 months, does nothing, gets paid then fired) would never be hired by me because I’d trash-can his resume as soon as I saw the length of his stay at his prior employers.
[/quote]

Somehow I doubt his resume accurately reflects his work history. You would only find out after checked references, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t have references that are less than honest.

[Coronita]

[quote=deadzone]It is so obvious that a large percentage of folks are just effing off most of the time with this work from home situation.
That’s why I don’t believe for a second that this is going to be a permanent or long term shift.

At some point corporations (and even government) are going to have to be productive once all the pandemic related and other corporate handouts wear off.[/quote]

if corporations wanted to be productive, they would fire all the bloviater status bean counting project managers, specially in the defense industry and public sector. when i interned at a defense company, god talk about the endless meetings after meetings. Please, dont tell me about efficiency…. in most of these industries, having 10 engineers in meeting after meeting is hardly efficient. even before work remotely… and this problem at these american companies have been around for decades….despite all the feeble attempts to make a conpany more efficient….and when layoffs do happen, its rare that these bean counters are the ones to get laidoff in the defense and public sector.
..since they have visiblility to the directors, vps, and ceos…they are usually the last to go…the first is usually the workebee grunts stuck with the 2.5% COLA raises. just saying….

[Coronita]

[quote=svelte]The first guy mentioned (holds jobs for 2 months, does nothing, gets paid then fired) would never be hired by me because I’d trash-can his resume as soon as I saw the length of his stay at his prior employers.

The hire-folks-to-do-my-work path is riddled with problems. What if those folks steal code and pass it off as their own work? Many companies today check very closely the licensing of software they reuse out of fear of being sued. Not knowing who is “writing” your code and therefore whether any of it is proprietary to another company or covered under some sort of license (BSD, GNU, GPL, MIT, Apache or more restrictive types) leaves the company wide open.[/quote]

For most of these jobs, they are wannabe FinTech startups that got a lot of VC funding. Most of them want to make a proof of concept so that the company can raise the next round of funding, get acquired, or go public.
80% of them wont be around in 2 years. we arent talking about a defense or public sector job or something requiring a security clearance. Think a company like WebVan or pets.com. these are the companies thats so lax on review process, interview process, so yes you can get away with it if you dont mind compromising your work ethics.
and theres a lot of short term money to be made this way. Silly Silicon Valley…

Your concerns about code stealing, licensing, etc are overblown. The code isnt important enough or revolutionary enough to be worth stealing in most of these fintech startups….and you wont be able to tell if you are the guy obtaining the code from the the cheaper outsourced labor, do the code review, and the gitlab/github checkin, which you would do if you were trying to pass if off as your own code…at these fintech startups, no one gives a shit… thats why these people can get away with what they are doing…its one of the reasons why i got out of these fintech startup bay area pushes i generation ago. the goal is short term exit strategy and to cash in…different for the few of us that are in the game trying to make a difference, where we use our rental income to pay the bills so we can try to find an opportunity we enjoy doing … hopefully ill get there one day.

[Coronita]

[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=svelte]The first guy mentioned (holds jobs for 2 months, does nothing, gets paid then fired) would never be hired by me because I’d trash-can his resume as soon as I saw the length of his stay at his prior employers.
[/quote]

Somehow I doubt his resume accurately reflects his work history. You would only find out after checked references, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t have references that are less than honest.[/quote]

it would be hard for a prospect employer to figure it out due to confidentiality of your employment history and how it is up to how you report it. Background checks (for jobs not requiring a security clearance ) are mainly just to check your criminal record and the work history you provide… you have complete control of the work history narrative….Furthermore,the employer is only allowed to confirm a candidates work date and title, and not ask for any reason for termination, nor will the company provide that information, again for confidentiality and liability reasons….

If the guy really has the guts to pull this off and pull in 1.5 million in one year, he will be smart enough to cover his tracks…and he wont need to worry about working for 5-6 years minimum…longer, if he manages his bounty well.

we are the dumb ones who play a straight game… how long will it take most of us to earn 1.5m on salary alone???

[Anonymous]

[quote=XBoxBoy][quote=deadzone]It is so obvious that a large percentage of folks are just effing off most of the time with this work from home situation. [/quote]

How is that different than all the effing off they were doing while at the office?[/quote]

Similar but far worse. You don’t think the fact that folks are sitting at home with absolutely no visibility from supervisors or management has an impact on productivity?

And to Flus comment, of course there is an over abundance of meetings in corporate america. But being physically present at a meeting is surely more productive than sitting at home “virtually” attending the meeting while you are literally whacking off.

[Author]

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