[quote=Ren][quote=SK in CV][quote=Ren]This is a little contradictory. If you have hope, that means you don’t know, which means you’re agnostic. If you believe there is no God, you’re an atheist, which is a form of religion in itself – you don’t know that there is no God. There is no incontrovertible proof either way.
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Atheism is not a religion. Absence of evidence is not evidence.[/quote]
The definition of “atheism” changes depending on whether you’re talking to an atheist or not, which is convenient for debates. To non-atheists, it’s “the theory or belief that there is no God” (hence religious), while to atheists it’s the “absence of belief” (which is part of being agnostic). However, taking the word “atheism” out of the equation, the facts are:
A) No one on Earth, regardless of belief, knows if there is a God or not. The evidence isn’t there.
B) Those who don’t acceptA are religious, because they believe otherwise.
So, if you’re using the definition “absence of belief” and you accept the fact that you don’t know if there is a God, you’re also agnostic whether you admit it or not. Of course the word “atheist” is better for shock value.
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You’re right… I don’t know as niether do you… but none the less I don’t believe. That makes me an agnostic.
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I just told you I don’t believe. Hoping is not believing. Fix yourself.
As for Santa…
Santa is more tangible than God… I see the gifts that I have received from him and overall I think he has made more people happy…. He still brings gifts if you are gay, or don’t believe in some basic tenets of a church or doctrine… He only cares if you have been good…
Personally I think he inspires more feelings of love and charity than does God.
