[quote=no_such_reality][quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=Arraya] Now we just have to move away from the divine right of money and property. Which should also be driven by science.[/quote]
Arraya: I’m curious about your last sentence, “…should also be driven by science”. [/quote]
What is the “correct” science. I find many pushing for the environment have a religion, not science. And if science, what about economics?
I saw an interesting article Thursday in the LA Times… Anyway, it’s online at the Detriot Free Pess. The basics, based on the 2007 model year, current technology can boost economy by 29% for $2200. The next leg up is switching to diesel, at a cost of $5900, it’ll net 37%. Finally, hybrids, at a cost of $9000 for a 50% gain.
The CAFE standard from 2007 to now has been 27.5 MPG.
So from a science and economics standpoint, the no brainer is the 29% for $2200. It also corresponds to the proposed 2016 CAFE standard.
Anybody want to guess at what price per gallon the $9000 hybrid cost pays for itself based on 12000 miles per year and 10 years of driving? $14.25/gallon…
Think the mileage is low and hurts the argument, fine use 15,000 miles per year. Ten years, breakeven is at $11.50 a gallon. Hmm, Hope everybody drives those hybrids ten years and 150,000 miles…[/quote]
You know most other industrialized non-oil producing countries ALREADY pay near that amt for gas, mainly by tariff/tax.
Japanese car companies got their start in US with great mileages. So the curse of not having oil domestically turned out to be a blessing in disguise.
Meanwhile having the oil wells in US is turning out to be a CURSE in disguise. We thought cheap oil was a given, not knowing the price we are paying environmentally, politically, militarily and economically…