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FWIW – she’s not a push-over, tramp, or someone who slept around. In the 20 years I’ve known this friend, she’s never had a boyfriend. And this was her one “serious” relationship. She’s a good, church going, woman. Not a tramp. The guy’s lines were very smooth.
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I know this wasn’t the point of your post, but… it should be blindingly obvious that “good” and “church going” have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Going to church is a social hobby, not unlike hunting or gambling in terms of the percentage of participants that are “good” or “bad.”
“Tramp” – like “slut” – is a pejorative term used by certain men to keep “their” women from expressing their sexuality and, likewise, by uptight women to label other women who might be a threat to their domestic tranquility. Which is why there’s no real comparable term for men who engage in the same activities – it’s acceptable. I thought Piggington, of all places, had crawled out of the previous century.
Anyhow, I doubt there’s much correlation between “church going” and having babies out of wedlock. Some of the highest rates of church attendance are in rural areas and inner cities… where there are also high rates of out of wedlock births.
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Dave – valid point. Very valid.
I’m not religious, she is. And she lives her beliefs more than most… She has guilt about the “sin” that brought her daughter into the world.
Maybe uptight about sex would have been a better description. But, for her, her religious values are what she uses as the reason not to have sex.
Not saying it’s right or wrong, rational or irrational, etc. – this is just who she is. She’s been celibate outside of this one relationship.
The other comments about guys like this being smooth liars, fits this FOB.
