[quote=bearishgurl][quote=CDMA ENG]I think everyone here, with a rare few, understands the problem.
As the reduction of labor, and by extension people, continues due to automation, and other such things, it makes me wonder what will be the drivers for population reduction.
Also the boomers dying off will do nothing for us…
It is well known that:
Gen Y Population >> Gen X & Boomers Populations
And reduction is the key issue here for a greater disturbution of wealth, education, and social well-being…
SDDuuuude once showed me a study showing that most likely it would be the price of resources.
China is trying to be proactive with a “One Child Policy”.
MISH thinks it will be war…
One could argue that it would probably be a combination of the first and the third but either way the demand for physical… and intellectual labor (though disportantionly physical) is disappearing and unless something is address proactively then the third option is mostly likely…
Fortunately we, as a country, are very good at the third… that does not mean I condone it.
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Are the rest of the US all of a sudden going to stop needing the food and gas and oil that the country’s midsection produces … all with PHYSICAL LABOR jobs??
What about gradually? I don’t think it will be uncommon that new gas-powered vehicles will still be running 30 years from now. And they are STILL being manufactured today. And will the rest of the country’s residents have no need for the meat, dairy, grain and produce (grown in flyover America) in the coming decades?
I understand automation is used successfully in factories but humans are still needed to supervise it. Gen X/Y have been leaving family farms to attend college elsewhere for decades … and perhaps never returning. How will this change?
Sorry, but I just don’t see Americans surviving on MREs and seaweed briquettes in any of our lifetimes. I see Gen Y getting living-wage jobs, partly due to massive boomer retirements from here on out. That is, those Gen Y who are serious about majoring in an employable field and willing to relocate, if necessary.
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A lot. No one assumes a “George Jetson” future where a machine does one hundered percent of the work. It has been explained, multiple times, why there is will a huge reduction in need for physical, and some intellectual, labor.
If you continue to miss the point, especially after some excellent examples have been presented, it is your doing.
Again… Everyone, except for a few, accepts the idea…
For a moment let’s turn to you arguement about retiring Boomers…
Gen Y Population >> Gen X Population…
So this not being a 1 to 1 factor doesn’t really pan out in favor of labor (physical or intellectual).
We should move well past this arguement as it is not even an arguement, at this point, but turn our attention on how, as NSR put it “Change the world funadmentally” without ripping ourselves apart globally, nationally, locally, tribally, and so forth.
There are millions in China without real wage jobs… You only need to look at China… It will be only a matter of time before something radical happens there. They will be the crystal ball for other modern societies.
You can you continue your denial… Mostly likely you will be dead and I will be out of the work force and dying myself when the magnitude of this problem comes to bear… so no sweat there…
Hopefully we have recognized this and dealt with the problem before it becomes too late and the third option is rendered.
I do not see an apopyloptic future, as you state, where we are eating MREs and Seaweed biscuits.
To be quite frank I see us more like Mexico or Central America… Where the rich are abudcted daily and the rule of law is anything but…
“Ignorance frequently begets confidence more then confidence does…” Charlie “D”
