[quote=AN]flu, I don’t remember ever seeing anything about Trump supporter pushing for quota or affirmative action. Keep in mind his core supporters are not college educated and they feel more threaten by those who take their skilled/unskilled union jobs than high tech works. So, I’m not threaten by their fear.
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There’s plenty of rhetoric being through from that side on high tech workers, forign workers, and H1-Bs.
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Also, I’m pretty you’re fully aware than presidents don’t make bills and laws.
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Yes, but he does set a lot of precedence. There’s the appointment to the supreme court and there’s executive orders. And a long list of other things that can be done.
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So, I’m more afraid of one party taking full control of all 3 branches. Bad shit tends to happen when that happen. Although, I did vote for Peters because Denise Gitsham endorses Trump, so, maybe I’m shooting myself in the foot with this one.
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I agree. And that has crossed my mind/
In the worst case scenario, we see Hillary win, and Democrats taking over Senate, not taking over House, neither of which is enough to stop a filibuster.
In the other scenario, Republicans maintain control both House and Senate and Trump wins, since it’s unlikely Trump would win, while GOP down-ballot senators/house reps lose their seats in the majority. In that case, we would have the lop-sided government. What are the prospects of a Republican only government? Doesn’t that bother you?
I’m more concerned the ALT-Right completely taking over the republican party. Then what? Republican core values are quickly being eroded. No one on the right is really talking about fiscal responsibility, responsible spending, hard work, effort. The same thing coming out of alt-right is the same thing is coming out of far alt-left. It’s someone else’s fault, blame THEM. No one wants to accept responsibility for their own outcome anymore. On top of that, then you got a government that will spend more time on bullshit social conservatism (anti-gay rights, anti-women’s rights, more religious nutjob bullshit), not of which was ever particularly appealing to some of us in the middle anyway.
Republicans establishment never in the past picked a fight with “foreign workers”. Trump changed a lot of this. It starts with illegals, and low skill workers. And then there’s grumblings about H1-Bs and foreign workers…How much longer do you think that the hate over foreign workers and H1-B’s boil over to anyone that looks foreign? This is why I feel this sort of thinking is dangerous. It might not concern you or me right now, since neither of us are hispanic, illegal or muslim. But when does the line get drawn and when does it stop? Answer it won’t. Because none of the uneducated, unskilled people will ever be happy because they won’t ever realize the reason why they are left behind has nothing to do with what everyone else is doing, but rather it has everything to do with what they themselves are not doing. But along the way, they will continue to find every excuse and every reason why they are being left behind…
I understand the need for a torch bearer to push back against all the ridiculous policies of affirmative action, reverse discrimination, and for someone to truly represent an equal, impartial viewpoint that ability and ability alone should be the only test for some opportunity. Unfortunately, that torch bearer is no way in hell donald trump, and no way in hell any of Trump’s supporters, who are using this only as an excuse for why themselves fall short.
Does things like that fox ridicule of chinatown bother you at all? I mean, we’re talking prime time. You think fox would have done something like this in Harlem?
I’m not really trying to convince you, just letting you know where I’m coming from. As pretty good friends with you, I totally respect your position on things, as I can totally understand how in a lot of ways a lot of us have been, well short changed, by bullshit things like what SCA-5 almost tried to do. My take on this is..Fight the current present danger, and fight the other danger when we have more time 🙁
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I understand you don’t particularly like Hillary. I just pointed out one particular group of people who hate Hillary to a point where they would vote for Trump all the while hoping he’ll get impeached. This is why I don’t think guys like Trump will be able to do too much damage. If Clinton can get impeached for the Monica shit, then Trump would be impeached much faster if he ever pull any of the shit you’re worried about.
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It’s actually pretty hard to get impeached, it appears. Didn’t we go to war in Iraq on a big lie? Still waiting for those WMD’s….
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I understand your position on the market and I don’t really object them. Except for the your fear of Trump causing a long term market decline. I think if he does win, it would be a short term pull back, then the market will recover shortly after. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess.[/quote]
My definition of long term is probably most people’s definition of short term. I consider 4 years already pretty long. 8 would be an eternity. I don’t expect the damage to be longer than that. But nevertheless it still would suck.
