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May 3, 2007 at 12:55 PM #8992May 3, 2007 at 1:01 PM #51736no_such_realityParticipant
Bugs, is that all homes including new homes? Jim the Realtor’s blog tracks April sales at about 1350. IS his just resale homes?
I’m still amazed that for the biggest purchase 99% of Americans are going to make that everybody gets not only different numbers but wildly different numbers whether sales, NODs, foreclosures, the RE gig up and down the line.
May 3, 2007 at 1:44 PM #51749SD RealtorParticipantThe MLS simply gives data for listings put on the MLS itself. So if there are new homes on the MLS then that particular home that closes on the MLS will count as an MLS sale. However, if there are 20 other homes in the development that sold that month but they were not on the MLS then they will not be counted. As for the differences between the MLS and Jims number it all depends. Also make sure you check to see if the number is a total of ALL TYPES of homes or not, (attached, detached, multifamily) as Jim may parse things out in a more granular manner.
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May 3, 2007 at 3:06 PM #51767BugsParticipantThe number I used was the combination of detached and attached housing, and is strictly limited to what the MLS itself shows. The builders mostly don’t use the MLS, so their sales would be in addition to the MLS numbers. Likewise, the FSBO and non-sale transfers don’t show up in the MLS either. I think it’s fair to say that the MLS is just the MLS, not the complete picture. I still think it’s a good indicator of trends, though.
May 5, 2007 at 9:42 PM #51930kikiParticipantJim’s numbers are detached only. He mentions this in the comment section.
May 9, 2007 at 12:27 PM #52200BugsParticipantUpdate:
As of Noon 05/09/2007, the MLS is reporting 2,223 sales for April 2007. This comes in almost exactly at 15% fewer sales than reported in the MLS during the same period of 2006.
For the first 4 months of the year, this region is down by about 15% when compared to 2006. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m just not seeing a rally in progress.
May 9, 2007 at 12:39 PM #52203AnonymousGuestDo these sales numbers include this April’s 600+ forclosures in the total sales? If so, is not this April’s sales figure considerably lower than last year’s?
Also, is there any way to determine how forclosure sales at auction back to the lender are affecting median and median price per square foot?
It seems to me that if 600 homes were forclosed upon and went REO at close to the value of the loan, then this would have a considerable impact on maintaining high prices in the market. It would also seem to mask what was really going on with the prices of other homes being sold.
Am I wrong?
May 9, 2007 at 12:41 PM #52204AnonymousGuestsd teacher, are you really a teacher? Do you teach at a public school? What grade and which subject?
I ask because you spell ‘foreclosure’ incorrectly.
May 9, 2007 at 1:35 PM #52218sdrealtorParticipantforclosure salz are not in the mls unlest they came back as REO’s after goin bak to the lenduh
May 9, 2007 at 2:28 PM #52228little ladyParticipantThat’s mean you guys………everyone here misspells a word or two now and again(not to mention typo’s).
Anyway, thanks for the update. It makes me feel better cuz’ the house I have been lookin’ @ buyin'(wanted to lowball @ summer’s end) got snatched up.
May 9, 2007 at 2:37 PM #52230BugsParticipantWhat? -15% off of the 2006 numbers isn’t enough of a drop in volume for you? C’mon. 2007 is shaping up to be the worst year for sales volumes since 1996. The foreclosures will just add to that pressure. If the NOT trends continue the resulting REO resales 6 months from now will already comprise 25% or more of the sales. Think what that will do for pricing.
MLS only shows what the realty agents sell through the MLS. It won’t show the transactions that aren’t really sales, like interfamily or foreclosure transactions.
May 9, 2007 at 2:53 PM #52234PDParticipantWe are a society that demands instant gratification. Anything less than a 5% drop per month isn’t “instant” enough.
May 9, 2007 at 8:13 PM #52273AnonymousGuestYes I am really a teacher – Middle school history, and I have been known to spell words wrong when I am typing quickly. Good thing I don’t teach spelling.
But, how about my question? Do foreclosures affect median price per square foot?
May 9, 2007 at 8:48 PM #52274PerryChaseParticipantMozilla Firefox 5 has spell check. I don’t make spelling mistakes anymore. It’s the grammar and syntax I worry about.
_A Way with Words_ is a fun show on KPBS radio.
I don’t think that foreclosures affect anything until they are sold again.
May 9, 2007 at 9:22 PM #52276AnonymousGuestVery funny, sdr!
little lady, check your spacing, and no apostrophe in ‘typos.’
Perry, you have laid down the gauntlet with your ‘I don’t make spelling mistakes anymore.’ I’ll be watching!
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