[quote=svelte][quote=scaredyclassic][quote=svelte]You’re right scaredy.
All cops are assholes who would cover up their own buddies doing anything.
In fact, had you been standing there, you would have run right over and pushed the cop off of him because you are not a bad citizen. It would have been immediately obvious to you that the man was dying. You would have been first one to do the right thing. I can see it now. The man with the handle “scaredy” saving a man’s life.
I think you should join the police force and clean that organization up.[/quote]
citizens have no duty to rescue. You could be dying in the street and i could walk over your body with no repercussions.
Cops on the other hand arguably have a duty to rescue. So if they see someone in distress, they are legally required (some believe) to rescue.
Also, only an idiot would have assaulted the police in that situation.
If floyd had died with no witnesses, I guaranfuckingtee you those other officers would not have ratted out their buddy. 100% guarantee. Hell, it wouldn’t have been “apparent” anything wrong was done. Guy was “resisting” we tried to restrain, him, he basically brought it on himself.
And the police report would have been fictional. and signed off by all involved. There is zero doubt in my mind as to that.
Maybe policing wouldnt be as dangerous if we hadn’t created a militaristic police state with a seriously disenfranchised underclass.
But it is what it is. The police are SUPPOSED to be taking grave risks. that’s what they signed on for. it’s just that society has evolved into a very messed up situation. I wouldn’t be a cop under any circumstances, let alone the current clusterfuck.[/quote]
You’re part of the problem. You’ll bitch and complain but you won’t take action. You’re a bad apple through inaction.[/quote]
i suppose, in part. This is a pretty big systemic problem, complicated by the reality that it is divided up into thousands of local cultural subsets and departments.
Kinda like blaming some dopey commuter for global warming for driving his escalade.
in my humble opinion, saying this is just a “bad apple” cop and the average cop would’ve turned this guy in, is just absurd. they by and large tolerate misbehavior from their cohorts, same as they would in the military at war. us against them. they would die for each other. having such close relationships is part of the pleasure of the work.
frankly im jealous of that. i would love to experience that. I am far too physically weak and introspective and hesitant to ever be a police officer. I would last 12 minutes.
reportedly there were 18 civilian complaints against the killer. maybe we will find out how many co-officer complaints there were. My money is on ZERO.
I never said all cops are assholes. I woudl say virtually all cops stick together, especially ina situation where there is any possible ambiguity and there is little chance of being detected…but even if there isn’t, they keep their mouths shut. that is the culture.
hell even in corporate america you don’t move up the chain by making a lot of HR complaints.
a change in culture might be one where officers are REWARDED for making allegations that can be substantiated against one another. like a crimestopper reward.
promote successful snitches.
make partners rotate very frequently, so they don’t become personally attached to one another.
The odds of that happening; very very very low. i hate to say zero, but…zero.
have them regularly review allegations of misconduct and show them regular firings involving misconduct to show the seriousness of the matter of getting a verifiable complaint.
and the song fuck tha police does not reflect my personal feelings; it’s just alarming that it reflects so many citizen’s feelings….
seems like only yesterday the polcie were in such a tizzy about disrespectful colin kaepernick. cop union wanted to boycott the games. funny…
“the union for police officers who work San Francisco home games says its members may boycott policing the stadium if the 49ers don’t discipline Colin Kaepernick for refusing to stand during the national anthem and for his statements about law enforcement….”
kind of hilarious in a dark way….cops definitely are not good at taking criticism.
and seriously, I think the cop has a good chance of walking…so why is there any need for his fellow officers to report him? he hired the philando castile case lawyer, so the lawyer knows how to win. i’d lay odds, 60/40 he walks.
