it doesn’t take that much time to do things over email or text. I don’t take phone calls. What i have noticed is that the dealers are very reluctant to give quotes over email these days because they know you’ll take the number and shop it among other dealers over email….So getting 1 dealer to name a below MSRP price is always the biggest time consumption. Once you get one dealer to name a price however, then using that price to shop it around helps and then prices start to get to more reasonable levels…The trick is that you don’t try to lowball between prices because then that just shuts down the entire negotiation with you being perceived as being unreasonable….

It’s a just a shitty experience. I made it already clear I’m not willing to pay MSRP and i’ll wait…and it was like bending teeth to negotiate…..

First I just try to negotiate, and places drop the price $200 each time…And then when the price is still above invoice, I finally have to pull out the “I have the mazdaspeed discount”, which then causes the price to more some more…. It’s like every single little game and thing to get people to nudge…..

I do agree, that if you are prepared to walk and come back next month, it might help since it appears to depend on trying to meet some internal sales goals…