[quote=zk][quote=njtosd] I don’t remember Supreme Court justices threatening to move to New Zealand, or people “protesting” (aka whining) in the streets over the presidential outcome in ’08 or ’12. I think it’s a matter of bruised ego for a lot of the intellectual types.[/quote]

I agree that protesting is ridiculous.

But to say that a “bruised ego” is the reason for it is more ridiculous. Bruised ego isn’t the problem. This is the problem:

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In addition to the xenophobia and the misogyny, there are all these shocking and disgusting things:
His wanting nuclear weapons to proliferate.
His insistence that the military will follow illegal orders if he gives them.
His threats not to honor our NATO obligations.
His profound ignorance of foreign affairs (“Putin won’t go into Ukraine,” didn’t know what the nuclear triad is).
His desire to commit war crimes (killing terrorists’ families).
His threats not to pay our debts in full.
His birtherism.
. . . .

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I don’t think I made myself as clear as I thought – both you and millennial have interpreted my description of “intellectual types” as meaning that they are actually intellectuals. I meant it in a somewhat pejorative sense. But before I say anything – I ended up not voting for Trump or Clinton.

There are very few Americans who voted for Clinton who are familiar with all of the issues that you raise. There are many, many who voted for Clinton because they believe that people who backed Clinton were smarter, cooler and simply better than those who voted for Trump – without reference to issues. To be fair, the Democratic party promoted that position with its party line, celebrities and references to deplorables. (I have many family members who fall into that category – maybe that explains my annoyance. ) Those are the ones that I refer to as “intellectual types”. They feel like they got beaten by their inferiors – that is the bruised ego to which I refer. ( I feel a similar fraction voted for Trump for equally uninformed reasons – the make America great again sort of superficial national pride and abortion gibberish. But that’s not the topic we’re addressing right now.)

My husband is a car guy. To analogize – a lot of people buy expensive cars because they appreciate the engineering – but many more buy them because of ego driven issues. I admire people who have well informed viewpoints – really regardless of the viewpoint. But a lot of this argument is about ego – and I think most elections are driven by emotions not logic.