[quote=FlyerInHi]joec, how does voting for a third or fourth party candidate matter any more than voting R or D?

You seem to be advocating for direct presidential elections and a parliamentary system closer to what they have in France or Italy. I’d be fine with that because the left would win many more elections. Right wing social policies such as gun rights, anti abortion, etc… would be marginalized to insignificance.

There is no equivalence between Hillary and Donald.
I agree with njtosd who posted before that people naturally lean more liberal or conservative (but the parties are not natural and do evolve). Joec, I think that you lean more conservative and you’re not happy how the conservative party has evolved. Too bad. I know that misery loves company, but don’t expect others to feel the same way about their party.[/quote]

Actually, I was a Bernie supporter so that would probably put me way way way off from being Conservative…

I even voted for Obama once.

That’s the problem I think with this election and politics in general, you bash Hillary and everyone thinks you are a neo-Nazi/KKK Trump loving Republican.

People can’t choose to think their own thing without everyone else prejudging this or that. Maybe that’s just society in general and that’s ok and just how it is.

I suppose I am independent and don’t support to neither party ideology. Probably why I complain about the 2 party system in general overall.

I am also non-white (Asian) immigrant so Trump winning may send me and all the Asian race back in camps if there is a war with China. I probably just don’t like Hillary and that’s that.