[quote=deadzone]On the one hand, we have all these threads about how hard it is for kids with excellent grades to even get accepted to public schools in California (in any degree let along Engineering). Then on the other hand we have these H1B proponents that claim there are not enough US citizens with STEM degrees.
It just doesn’t add up unless you are suggesting that the reason it is so hard to get accepted by UC schools is due to foreign competition. Perhaps that is true for UC schools(although I highly doubt it), this is definitely not the case nationally.
According to this report, 83,000 Bachelors degrees were awarded in Engineering with 93% of those to US permanent residents (i.e. not H1B material). For masters degrees, 47,000 were awarded with 57% of those to permanent residents. For PhDs, 9500 with 46% going to permanent residents.
So not surprisingly, there is more foreign influence in the graduate programs compared to undergrad. However, overall looking at these statistics, how can you see a shortage of domestic engineers?[/quote]
Thanks for the data! This really solidifies my point!! 65000 H1-B’s are granted a year. I have no idea how many of those go to engineers. But we have way more than that graduating at all levels of degree who are American citizens. We would have to believe that the Americans that are graduating are less qualified than the H1-B’s. I will never believe that.
