[quote=asianautica][quote=urbanrealtor]
I am not saying its impossible but again, I dare you to show me an example that takes place in the last 10 to 20 years.[/quote]
I know quite a few people who came here 15-27 years ago (a little longer than your 20 years limit) with nothing more than the clothes on their backs. Now, they are either engineers, doctors, business owners of businesses that employ as much as 400+ people and have multi-million $ profit. They made it because of hard work, extreme frugality, and great support from family and friends. When your family and friends also have nothing or just a little more than you, but willing to help each other to succeed together, you can go a long way. Also, they did receive government assistance when they first came. However, they try their darnedest to get off it ASAP, through education and frugality. So yes, it’s still doable today to go from rags to riches in America. All it takes is the right mindset.[/quote]

I respect and agree with your point, however, it proves mine. Per your description, they used government assistance.

I suspect many of them had government aid or government backed loans in college (like many people do).

I very much respect that people work hard but the assertion that I (or anyone else) should not contribute or should be exempt from wealth redistribution because we never needed it is almost universally a false one.

Let me ask, did they have the degrees when they got here or did they get them here?

If they already had the education (or their parents did) thats not coming with just clothes. Thats coming with education and skills but starting with small bank accounts. Not exactly rags to riches.