I find the polls a bit questionable. I get really doubtful when the percentages change significantly day to day or week to week. It is almost like the poll ‘results’ are being used to drive the actual results through implied ‘group think’ – when thinking, deciding like the larger group is safer or perceived as being more ‘right’.

As for whether Trump will win.. don’t know. If Russia is involved with the leaks of Clinton’s Emails etc, they may then try to cause conflict within the United States by having Clinton win (by tampering) while also revealing facts that could result in her impeachment (the electronic voting machines are proven to be insecure, and California is only allotting enough paper ballots for 10% of the vote, if more than 10% go paper – they get a provisional ballot.). – in which case, if true, would really be an indictment against the press themselves because the whole purpose of the first amendment is to inform the public – not to try to lead them about by the nose. They should have been digging into some of Clinton’s issues instead of trying to dredge every last bit of crap from Trump’s background. It would have given the DNC impetus to look elsewhere and get a better candidate, forcing the GOP to do likewise – and Trump would not have appeared and we might all have been better off.

PS: As I have mentioned before, I have done Defense contracting work, and according to the documents I had to sign when getting a clearance AND when being ‘read into’ a program – Hillary definitely and knowingly violated the law when it comes to the handling of classified info. Part of the paperwork you sign includes documents on labeling of, and handling of classified info. The statute also states that negligence or not knowing is not an excuse. You also sign that you know how to and will responsibly handle the classified data under threat of prosecution (statutes that they are trying to throw against Snowden)

This is one weird election. I propose another scenario: Hillary wins, gets outed via Wikileaks, impeached, the VP then becomes pres…

[quote=ucodegen]I find the polls a bit questionable. I get really doubtful when the percentages change significantly day to day or week to week. It is almost like the poll ‘results’ are being used to drive the actual results through implied ‘group think’ – when thinking, deciding like the larger group is safer or perceived as being more ‘right’.[/quote]

[quote][…] because the whole purpose of the first amendment is to inform the public – not to try to lead them about by the nose. They should have been digging into some of Clinton’s issues instead of trying to dredge every last bit of crap from Trump’s background. [/quote]

You and I must not live in the same country.

The purpose of the first amendmendment is to protect everyone’s inalienable right to say whatever the fuck they want to say.

If you don’t like what “they” – the press – does, then start your own media enterprise. The first amendment lets you do that, same as anyone else.

You can even protect yourself from all those sinister influences while you are broadcasting, like the guy in the picture.

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Yes, I think Trump will win …
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Do you want him to win or you have some rational basis for your prediction?

If Trump loses, will you conduct an autopsy on your own thinking? I know that I would if Hillary loses.

Back in 2012, I wasn’t as confident Obama would win. Since then, I talk to more people and try to get a better sense of mood of the country. I think I have pretty good intuition.

My Spanish is not that good, but I listen to Latino tv news just to get a feel. Latinos are pretty energized this year after both Bush Obama failed at immigration reform.

Anyway, let’s discuss this again after nov 8

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An individual has much smaller resources than does a large well backed organization. The problem becomes one of trying to upset the one person one vote through mis-information.[/quote]

You mean misinformation like covering Benghazi as if there really was a scandal? You mean misinformation like covering the Clinton foundation as if there really was a scandal? You mean misinformation like covering Clinton’s email server as if there really was a scandal? You mean misinformation like NOT covering the rape of a 13 year old girl by a presidential candidate as if there was no scandal? You mean misinformation like NOT covering bribes paid by the Trump foundation as if there was no scandal? You mean misinformation like covering this election as if it’s close? Yeah, the press has failed quite a bit this election cycle. The first amendment allows all that. In fact, guarantees the right to do all that. But despite all that rigging against her, Hillary Clinton is still going to be the next president. That’s how bad her opponent is.

I have a dim view of polls. Polling is a business and elections are their peak period of making money.

They play along with the daily media circus and tickle their clients with all of this current ‘data’.

Sure, some may have a bit more cred that others, but I think pollsters are playing each side against the other and making bank.

Ever see the actual poll data set? Who, where, how many, demos, and on and on. So easy to publish blanket statements of Hil +1 or Tru -2. Keeps feeding the beast.

Surprised press, bloggers, or even Piggs haven’t noted the lack of supporting data when reading these polls.

Can you imagine the shit storm if Comey didn’t CYA and then Congress or the Media learned there was Clinton emails on the Weiner computer?

If it’s just unclassified missives between Huda and Clinton, that’s nobody’s business. If a single one of them is Classified, that’s the whole point. Clinton’s handling of classified info was so lax that it ended up on a computer Anthony Weiner used for sexting with a minor.

Do I think that means we should elect Trump, no.

I’ll gladly take four more years of Elon Musk’s ilk bilking the system than subjecting ourselves to egocentric trepidation of the balding Oompa.

Sadly the 66% that like neither can’t seem to look for any less unlikable out of fear that the more unlikable one will win.