Are we talking about the guy who was shot in SC?

[quote=flu]So what do you guys think about the latest thing that happened in Arizona with the cop running over an armed gunman? Justified?[/quote]

I haven’t watched the video, but if a guy is walking around with the rifle about to shoot someone, I think it is within the rights of the police to take the dude down. Even if that means with a cruiser.

Again, if I don’t want any trouble, I shouldn’t be doing anything illegal.

It is odd for an outsider like myself that the “gun culture” never enters this debate. And how ironic that a car was used in one of these now widely publicized unfortunate incidents. The argument goes, ‘why ban guns when cars kill more people?’

The question arises as to whether these events are on the rise, or are just getting publicized more. Is there some faintly fascist element lurking in the dark recesses of these apparently demented individuals? Or does media portrayal manipulate us into inventing such notions? Or do we need—in a warped kind of way— these kinds of apparently mal-adjusted individuals as an antidote to criminal sociopaths? A civilized society should tackle the immediate cause. It should remove the guns. It can then start to seek alternative solutions in social causes without the fear or armed confrontation and consequent unnecessary loss of life. If the net benefit saves only one life, then it is worth it. You would say that if it was your child.

If you don’t care and find it entertaining TV, then society should make you question your place in it.

[quote=svelte][quote=flu]So what do you guys think about the latest thing that happened in Arizona with the cop running over an armed gunman? Justified?[/quote]

I haven’t watched the video, but if a guy is walking around with the rifle about to shoot someone, I think it is within the rights of the police to take the dude down. Even if that means with a cruiser.

Again, if I don’t want any trouble, I shouldn’t be doing anything illegal.[/quote]

Exactly right.

[quote=FlyerInHi]What about in states where there are open carry laws.
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You need to read up on the situation before you comment.

Also..you breezed right by the custom rims part…he can sell those effing things on craigslist, give his kids some of what he owes them, and ride on steel rims like I did when I had no dough! But to ride around with a customized ride with nice rims and tinted windows…nah….he should get himself an old POS (like I did when I was broke) and give his kids the difference. No sympathy from me!

Scaredy – you’re sounding more and more like a defense lawyer every day! If he got pulled over illegally, then he should STAND RIGHT THERE, let’em haul his ass in and get it thrown out in court! Maybe even sue the police and get a tidy bunch-o-cash! I’m all for that! But don’t run! That disrespects the very foundation of American society. If he thinks he got a raw deal, then plead his case in court, not via the Adida Hustle.

I’ve been shortchanged and even lied to by police before…I know they aren’t always honest or right. But I never ran. Never.

Do police have prejudices? You betcha, like every other white AND black AND Asian person in the United States. Every stinkin’ person!

But to assume it is a racial thing is a little too much for me to take.

Let me give you a real world example.

I typically don’t put front license plates on my sports cars, for a variety of reasons. I have driven that way for over 20 years during the day, at night, around bars, everywhere. Never been pulled over once for it. Never.

My sons and their friends emulated this and didn’t put the front plates on their cars when they were in high school. It seemed like monthly there were getting stopped for it…so much so they gave up and put the plates back on. They were ticked at me and the profiling that police were doing. They were young so of course they must be up to no good, right?

These boys were as lilly white as they come. They could never be mistaken for a person of color.

Now. Imagine the same cars, same driving patterns, same everything but turn my son and his friends black.

Do you suppose folks would be saying the cops were pulling them over due to racial profiling?

Do I think the young man should have been shot in SC? No I do not. The cop should stand trial and I bet he will rightly be convicted.

But I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the victim.

Before you all run off and misconstrue that comment, here is an analogy.

My heart gets heavy when I read of a person dying in a car accident that was not their fault. Pure bad luck, I feel bad for them.

But, when I hear of a person dying while skydiving, I don’t get a heavy heart. They knew their behavior was risky, they did it anyway. Oh well. I wish it didn’t happen, but no tears will be hitting my pillow. Same way I feel if someone runs from the police. Wish it wouldn’t have happened, cop should stand trial. But no tears on my pillow.

Tired of talking about this – I’m out.