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  • October 6, 2010 at 7:33 PM #18043
    XBoxBoy
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    Since I got my mail in ballot for the upcoming election today, I thought I’d toss this out there. I’ve gotten totally fed up with both the dems and repubs. Seems to me that when someone makes it onto the ballot as a candidate for either party, all that means is they’ve been vetted by the power brokers as suitably lobbyable.

    So, I’m thinking that if anyone has either democratic or republican after their name on the ballot, that’s reason enough to not vote for them. Of course that pretty much means that I’ll only be voting for candidates that won’t win.

    Curious what people think of this. Am I throwing my vote away? Should I just vote for the lesser of the two dominate parties? Would it be better to just not vote? If you vote for one of the two main parties, aren’t you pretty much saying, “yes sir, can I have some more sir?”

    XBoxBoy

    ps. while this post has the potential to turn into a flame war, I’m hoping that rather than piss on each other back and forth, posters will put forth arguments to those of us out here silently reading and debating which way to vote.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM #613665
    Hobie
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    Gone are the days where public service was not a full time career. Just served a term and returned to their shop or other employ.

    The problem of not voting or voting for a 3rd party can be summed up by recalling Ross Perots run for President. Great businessman but not the competent team player politician and he diluted votes away from Republicans which make it easier for Clinton to win. So not voting or voting for the 3rd party is not a strategy.

    Fundamentally, even if were to drop the D or R following someones affiliation there still will be collusion by simply trying to achieve a majority to win a vote on the floor.

    The solution is not so much the party but education of the electorate. As mentioned regarding the propositions, we need these guys to be held accountable to our views as they are there to represent us.

    So it is bitter pill but I think we need to stick with the two parties for now.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM #613751
    Hobie
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    Gone are the days where public service was not a full time career. Just served a term and returned to their shop or other employ.

    The problem of not voting or voting for a 3rd party can be summed up by recalling Ross Perots run for President. Great businessman but not the competent team player politician and he diluted votes away from Republicans which make it easier for Clinton to win. So not voting or voting for the 3rd party is not a strategy.

    Fundamentally, even if were to drop the D or R following someones affiliation there still will be collusion by simply trying to achieve a majority to win a vote on the floor.

    The solution is not so much the party but education of the electorate. As mentioned regarding the propositions, we need these guys to be held accountable to our views as they are there to represent us.

    So it is bitter pill but I think we need to stick with the two parties for now.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM #614296
    Hobie
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    Gone are the days where public service was not a full time career. Just served a term and returned to their shop or other employ.

    The problem of not voting or voting for a 3rd party can be summed up by recalling Ross Perots run for President. Great businessman but not the competent team player politician and he diluted votes away from Republicans which make it easier for Clinton to win. So not voting or voting for the 3rd party is not a strategy.

    Fundamentally, even if were to drop the D or R following someones affiliation there still will be collusion by simply trying to achieve a majority to win a vote on the floor.

    The solution is not so much the party but education of the electorate. As mentioned regarding the propositions, we need these guys to be held accountable to our views as they are there to represent us.

    So it is bitter pill but I think we need to stick with the two parties for now.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM #614411
    Hobie
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    Gone are the days where public service was not a full time career. Just served a term and returned to their shop or other employ.

    The problem of not voting or voting for a 3rd party can be summed up by recalling Ross Perots run for President. Great businessman but not the competent team player politician and he diluted votes away from Republicans which make it easier for Clinton to win. So not voting or voting for the 3rd party is not a strategy.

    Fundamentally, even if were to drop the D or R following someones affiliation there still will be collusion by simply trying to achieve a majority to win a vote on the floor.

    The solution is not so much the party but education of the electorate. As mentioned regarding the propositions, we need these guys to be held accountable to our views as they are there to represent us.

    So it is bitter pill but I think we need to stick with the two parties for now.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM #614722
    Hobie
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    Gone are the days where public service was not a full time career. Just served a term and returned to their shop or other employ.

    The problem of not voting or voting for a 3rd party can be summed up by recalling Ross Perots run for President. Great businessman but not the competent team player politician and he diluted votes away from Republicans which make it easier for Clinton to win. So not voting or voting for the 3rd party is not a strategy.

    Fundamentally, even if were to drop the D or R following someones affiliation there still will be collusion by simply trying to achieve a majority to win a vote on the floor.

    The solution is not so much the party but education of the electorate. As mentioned regarding the propositions, we need these guys to be held accountable to our views as they are there to represent us.

    So it is bitter pill but I think we need to stick with the two parties for now.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM #613675
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    It is more important to stand up for your beliefs than to vote for a major party. Just ask the Germans after World War II who had joined the Nazi Party just so they could blend in.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM #613761
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    It is more important to stand up for your beliefs than to vote for a major party. Just ask the Germans after World War II who had joined the Nazi Party just so they could blend in.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM #614306
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    It is more important to stand up for your beliefs than to vote for a major party. Just ask the Germans after World War II who had joined the Nazi Party just so they could blend in.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM #614421
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    It is more important to stand up for your beliefs than to vote for a major party. Just ask the Germans after World War II who had joined the Nazi Party just so they could blend in.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:25 PM #614732
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    It is more important to stand up for your beliefs than to vote for a major party. Just ask the Germans after World War II who had joined the Nazi Party just so they could blend in.

    October 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM #613680
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    Hobie,

    Are you in favor of smaller government?

    October 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM #613766
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    Hobie,

    Are you in favor of smaller government?

    October 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM #614311
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    Hobie,

    Are you in favor of smaller government?

    October 6, 2010 at 8:32 PM #614426
    BigGovernmentIsGood
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    Hobie,

    Are you in favor of smaller government?

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