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January 24, 2009 at 7:08 AM #14902January 24, 2009 at 8:08 AM #334636Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipant
My grand father had a 10 acre farm in the San Fernando Valley in the 1930’s right where Warner Center is now (50 story office buildings incase you are not familiar with that local),
The San Fernando valley looked a lot like Palmdale Lancaster area in the 1930’s
In 1980 irvine was mostly farm land
In 1970 Valencia CA Population was about 15 thousand.
The theme here is very fast growth over a very long time period in SoCal .
So If you get your chance to buy a home during this downturn (how ever long it lasts)
Maybe you should (If you can afford it).
Just my two cents
January 24, 2009 at 8:08 AM #334964Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMy grand father had a 10 acre farm in the San Fernando Valley in the 1930’s right where Warner Center is now (50 story office buildings incase you are not familiar with that local),
The San Fernando valley looked a lot like Palmdale Lancaster area in the 1930’s
In 1980 irvine was mostly farm land
In 1970 Valencia CA Population was about 15 thousand.
The theme here is very fast growth over a very long time period in SoCal .
So If you get your chance to buy a home during this downturn (how ever long it lasts)
Maybe you should (If you can afford it).
Just my two cents
January 24, 2009 at 8:08 AM #335051Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMy grand father had a 10 acre farm in the San Fernando Valley in the 1930’s right where Warner Center is now (50 story office buildings incase you are not familiar with that local),
The San Fernando valley looked a lot like Palmdale Lancaster area in the 1930’s
In 1980 irvine was mostly farm land
In 1970 Valencia CA Population was about 15 thousand.
The theme here is very fast growth over a very long time period in SoCal .
So If you get your chance to buy a home during this downturn (how ever long it lasts)
Maybe you should (If you can afford it).
Just my two cents
January 24, 2009 at 8:08 AM #335078Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMy grand father had a 10 acre farm in the San Fernando Valley in the 1930’s right where Warner Center is now (50 story office buildings incase you are not familiar with that local),
The San Fernando valley looked a lot like Palmdale Lancaster area in the 1930’s
In 1980 irvine was mostly farm land
In 1970 Valencia CA Population was about 15 thousand.
The theme here is very fast growth over a very long time period in SoCal .
So If you get your chance to buy a home during this downturn (how ever long it lasts)
Maybe you should (If you can afford it).
Just my two cents
January 24, 2009 at 8:08 AM #335164Nor-LA-SD-guyParticipantMy grand father had a 10 acre farm in the San Fernando Valley in the 1930’s right where Warner Center is now (50 story office buildings incase you are not familiar with that local),
The San Fernando valley looked a lot like Palmdale Lancaster area in the 1930’s
In 1980 irvine was mostly farm land
In 1970 Valencia CA Population was about 15 thousand.
The theme here is very fast growth over a very long time period in SoCal .
So If you get your chance to buy a home during this downturn (how ever long it lasts)
Maybe you should (If you can afford it).
Just my two cents
January 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM #334646HLSParticipantI grew up in So Cal.. I remember when Irvine was orange groves, when Temecula was Rancho California in the 1960’s with very few houses, before Magic Mountain was in Valencia, etc.
The area exploded in the 70’s-80’s because housing was AFFORDABLE.
It made sense to buy and real estate wasn’t looked at as a road to riches, buying overpriced McMansions with ARM’s and other toxic loans created by Wall Street that were going to explode.You actually had to qualify for a loan, which you could get with as little as 5% dow, and prove your income.
This isn’t a “downturn”, it’s a return to sanity.
The denial about what happened and thinking that you need/have a “chance” to buy a house is laughable.
The REAL crisis was the market bubble that the govt allowed to inflate.
The collapse of housing prices isn’t a crisis.Foreclosures are not the problem, they are the solution.
The stock market is in the same boat. Believing that it’s a safe place for retirement may be foolish.
Until several generations accept/understand what was allowed to occur and that housing and the stock market are ponzi schemes, the charade will go on; artificially manipulating the market is the problem, not the solution.
Never buy a house EXPECTING it to go up. Appreciation should be a bonus….HLS
January 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM #334973HLSParticipantI grew up in So Cal.. I remember when Irvine was orange groves, when Temecula was Rancho California in the 1960’s with very few houses, before Magic Mountain was in Valencia, etc.
The area exploded in the 70’s-80’s because housing was AFFORDABLE.
It made sense to buy and real estate wasn’t looked at as a road to riches, buying overpriced McMansions with ARM’s and other toxic loans created by Wall Street that were going to explode.You actually had to qualify for a loan, which you could get with as little as 5% dow, and prove your income.
This isn’t a “downturn”, it’s a return to sanity.
The denial about what happened and thinking that you need/have a “chance” to buy a house is laughable.
The REAL crisis was the market bubble that the govt allowed to inflate.
The collapse of housing prices isn’t a crisis.Foreclosures are not the problem, they are the solution.
The stock market is in the same boat. Believing that it’s a safe place for retirement may be foolish.
Until several generations accept/understand what was allowed to occur and that housing and the stock market are ponzi schemes, the charade will go on; artificially manipulating the market is the problem, not the solution.
Never buy a house EXPECTING it to go up. Appreciation should be a bonus….HLS
January 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM #335061HLSParticipantI grew up in So Cal.. I remember when Irvine was orange groves, when Temecula was Rancho California in the 1960’s with very few houses, before Magic Mountain was in Valencia, etc.
The area exploded in the 70’s-80’s because housing was AFFORDABLE.
It made sense to buy and real estate wasn’t looked at as a road to riches, buying overpriced McMansions with ARM’s and other toxic loans created by Wall Street that were going to explode.You actually had to qualify for a loan, which you could get with as little as 5% dow, and prove your income.
This isn’t a “downturn”, it’s a return to sanity.
The denial about what happened and thinking that you need/have a “chance” to buy a house is laughable.
The REAL crisis was the market bubble that the govt allowed to inflate.
The collapse of housing prices isn’t a crisis.Foreclosures are not the problem, they are the solution.
The stock market is in the same boat. Believing that it’s a safe place for retirement may be foolish.
Until several generations accept/understand what was allowed to occur and that housing and the stock market are ponzi schemes, the charade will go on; artificially manipulating the market is the problem, not the solution.
Never buy a house EXPECTING it to go up. Appreciation should be a bonus….HLS
January 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM #335087HLSParticipantI grew up in So Cal.. I remember when Irvine was orange groves, when Temecula was Rancho California in the 1960’s with very few houses, before Magic Mountain was in Valencia, etc.
The area exploded in the 70’s-80’s because housing was AFFORDABLE.
It made sense to buy and real estate wasn’t looked at as a road to riches, buying overpriced McMansions with ARM’s and other toxic loans created by Wall Street that were going to explode.You actually had to qualify for a loan, which you could get with as little as 5% dow, and prove your income.
This isn’t a “downturn”, it’s a return to sanity.
The denial about what happened and thinking that you need/have a “chance” to buy a house is laughable.
The REAL crisis was the market bubble that the govt allowed to inflate.
The collapse of housing prices isn’t a crisis.Foreclosures are not the problem, they are the solution.
The stock market is in the same boat. Believing that it’s a safe place for retirement may be foolish.
Until several generations accept/understand what was allowed to occur and that housing and the stock market are ponzi schemes, the charade will go on; artificially manipulating the market is the problem, not the solution.
Never buy a house EXPECTING it to go up. Appreciation should be a bonus….HLS
January 24, 2009 at 8:27 AM #335173HLSParticipantI grew up in So Cal.. I remember when Irvine was orange groves, when Temecula was Rancho California in the 1960’s with very few houses, before Magic Mountain was in Valencia, etc.
The area exploded in the 70’s-80’s because housing was AFFORDABLE.
It made sense to buy and real estate wasn’t looked at as a road to riches, buying overpriced McMansions with ARM’s and other toxic loans created by Wall Street that were going to explode.You actually had to qualify for a loan, which you could get with as little as 5% dow, and prove your income.
This isn’t a “downturn”, it’s a return to sanity.
The denial about what happened and thinking that you need/have a “chance” to buy a house is laughable.
The REAL crisis was the market bubble that the govt allowed to inflate.
The collapse of housing prices isn’t a crisis.Foreclosures are not the problem, they are the solution.
The stock market is in the same boat. Believing that it’s a safe place for retirement may be foolish.
Until several generations accept/understand what was allowed to occur and that housing and the stock market are ponzi schemes, the charade will go on; artificially manipulating the market is the problem, not the solution.
Never buy a house EXPECTING it to go up. Appreciation should be a bonus….HLS
January 24, 2009 at 8:30 AM #334656svelteParticipantI totally agree with you BS.
I truly believe the govt will have no option but to let inflation creep up here shortly.
Couple that with the very low interest rates and the fact that housing has dropped 30-50% in most SD areas, and it probably means it is a good time to find a home you can be happy with for 10 to 20 years and buy with a 30 yr fixed.
This could be totally off base, but that is where I would put my money.
January 24, 2009 at 8:30 AM #334983svelteParticipantI totally agree with you BS.
I truly believe the govt will have no option but to let inflation creep up here shortly.
Couple that with the very low interest rates and the fact that housing has dropped 30-50% in most SD areas, and it probably means it is a good time to find a home you can be happy with for 10 to 20 years and buy with a 30 yr fixed.
This could be totally off base, but that is where I would put my money.
January 24, 2009 at 8:30 AM #335070svelteParticipantI totally agree with you BS.
I truly believe the govt will have no option but to let inflation creep up here shortly.
Couple that with the very low interest rates and the fact that housing has dropped 30-50% in most SD areas, and it probably means it is a good time to find a home you can be happy with for 10 to 20 years and buy with a 30 yr fixed.
This could be totally off base, but that is where I would put my money.
January 24, 2009 at 8:30 AM #335097svelteParticipantI totally agree with you BS.
I truly believe the govt will have no option but to let inflation creep up here shortly.
Couple that with the very low interest rates and the fact that housing has dropped 30-50% in most SD areas, and it probably means it is a good time to find a home you can be happy with for 10 to 20 years and buy with a 30 yr fixed.
This could be totally off base, but that is where I would put my money.
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