CV has no soul. It is a pretentious area where the people feel they must have a woman at home and the man work and still have a maid and nanny. They must drive BMWs, Mercedes or Range Rovers. Be very carefull about saying hello to someone in CV as they may scurry off in a frenzy of fear. There are no restaurants, choice of shopping and is starting to get really congested.

4S, has more soul, more real people. The schools are top notch, the area is green, lush, friendly folks, a ton of parks and more parks going in. Traffic to downtown will add about 20 minutes to your commute than if you lived in CV. Both are pretty far places to live if you work downtown.

Now you are probably saying to yourself. This guy must live in 4S for talking so highly about it. You’re wrong. I live in CV, proper CV, not Pacific highlands but CV near Carmel country road/carmel mountain road. I have been there for 5 years. Even when my brother came to visit he went to the vons and came back and asked me why I lived there. I was perplexed. he said he has never seen so many rude and inconsiderate people in his life. He said no one looked happy, they are all into themselves, busy on their cells, etc… that was exactly how I felt.

Good luck in your searches

CV has no soul. It is a pretentious area where the people feel they must have a woman at home and the man work and still have a maid and nanny. They must drive BMWs, Mercedes or Range Rovers. Be very carefull about saying hello to someone in CV as they may scurry off in a frenzy of fear. There are no restaurants, choice of shopping and is starting to get really congested.

4S, has more soul, more real people. The schools are top notch, the area is green, lush, friendly folks, a ton of parks and more parks going in. Traffic to downtown will add about 20 minutes to your commute than if you lived in CV. Both are pretty far places to live if you work downtown.

Now you are probably saying to yourself. This guy must live in 4S for talking so highly about it. You’re wrong. I live in CV, proper CV, not Pacific highlands but CV near Carmel country road/carmel mountain road. I have been there for 5 years. Even when my brother came to visit he went to the vons and came back and asked me why I lived there. I was perplexed. he said he has never seen so many rude and inconsiderate people in his life. He said no one looked happy, they are all into themselves, busy on their cells, etc… that was exactly how I felt.

Good luck in your searches

CV has no soul. It is a pretentious area where the people feel they must have a woman at home and the man work and still have a maid and nanny. They must drive BMWs, Mercedes or Range Rovers. Be very carefull about saying hello to someone in CV as they may scurry off in a frenzy of fear. There are no restaurants, choice of shopping and is starting to get really congested.

4S, has more soul, more real people. The schools are top notch, the area is green, lush, friendly folks, a ton of parks and more parks going in. Traffic to downtown will add about 20 minutes to your commute than if you lived in CV. Both are pretty far places to live if you work downtown.

Now you are probably saying to yourself. This guy must live in 4S for talking so highly about it. You’re wrong. I live in CV, proper CV, not Pacific highlands but CV near Carmel country road/carmel mountain road. I have been there for 5 years. Even when my brother came to visit he went to the vons and came back and asked me why I lived there. I was perplexed. he said he has never seen so many rude and inconsiderate people in his life. He said no one looked happy, they are all into themselves, busy on their cells, etc… that was exactly how I felt.

Good luck in your searches

I suppose the schools at 4S are not going to be much worse than those in CV.

That's right. In term of API test scores (at the elementary level), 4S schools are around 850-900. Carmel Valley schools are around 875-975.

How is the commute from 4S to downtown SD?

In the morning on the I-15, from Camino del Norte to Mira Mesa blvd, there is heavy traffic. From Mira Mesa blvd to downtown you won't see much traffic.

I guess what you are asking is: what makes CV that much more expensive ?

1. Demographic. CV is solidly upper middle class. 4S is a mixture of both upper middle class & middle class.

2. Better schools

3. Closer to ocean

Is CV realy worth the price?

Only you can answer this question.

I suppose the schools at 4S are not going to be much worse than those in CV.

That's right. In term of API test scores (at the elementary level), 4S schools are around 850-900. Carmel Valley schools are around 875-975.

How is the commute from 4S to downtown SD?

In the morning on the I-15, from Camino del Norte to Mira Mesa blvd, there is heavy traffic. From Mira Mesa blvd to downtown you won't see much traffic.

I guess what you are asking is: what makes CV that much more expensive ?

1. Demographic. CV is solidly upper middle class. 4S is a mixture of both upper middle class & middle class.

2. Better schools

3. Closer to ocean

Is CV realy worth the price?

Only you can answer this question.

I’d have to agree about CV. I was thrilled to move here, having heard so many good things about the schools, how safe it is etc. Then I took my kids to the park. It’s there you get a sense of how life really is for people here.

During the week, it’s all nannies. It’s not optimal conversation since they treat you like you’re their employer. there is the rare mom but the kids are always under two since the older ones are off to preschool asap.

On the weekends, the park is overwhelmed by the soccer crowd. Chaotic but lively. Parents do keep to themselves and their friends however. It’s very hard to socialize casually if you’re just there for an hour or so to give the kids time to play.

I moved from a place had a huge park, lots of folks of all ages who would stop to chat with you, chat with your kids, pet your dog. Here it’s quite frankly the opposite.

Social opportunites come from institutions like schools or the rec center or the Pac Club, not neighbors. And I think people like it that way for some reason. I find it incredibly antiseptic. But again, some people like it that way.

Just make sure to botox the expression off your face before you buy here and you’ll fit in fine!

I’d have to agree about CV. I was thrilled to move here, having heard so many good things about the schools, how safe it is etc. Then I took my kids to the park. It’s there you get a sense of how life really is for people here.

During the week, it’s all nannies. It’s not optimal conversation since they treat you like you’re their employer. there is the rare mom but the kids are always under two since the older ones are off to preschool asap.

On the weekends, the park is overwhelmed by the soccer crowd. Chaotic but lively. Parents do keep to themselves and their friends however. It’s very hard to socialize casually if you’re just there for an hour or so to give the kids time to play.

I moved from a place had a huge park, lots of folks of all ages who would stop to chat with you, chat with your kids, pet your dog. Here it’s quite frankly the opposite.

Social opportunites come from institutions like schools or the rec center or the Pac Club, not neighbors. And I think people like it that way for some reason. I find it incredibly antiseptic. But again, some people like it that way.

Just make sure to botox the expression off your face before you buy here and you’ll fit in fine!