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Anonymous
Anonymous
19 years ago

Aw, heck, I was ready to go
Aw, heck, I was ready to go out and buy based on the series of improving numbers, until you showed that last chart with all of the ‘false starts.’

Nah, the end has just begun,
and has a long, long way to run.

Keep up the good work, sir!

an
an
19 years ago

That last graph explains a
That last graph explains a lot. That’s why I think every down turn have dead cat bounces all the way to the bottom. Only fundamental can be used to call a true bottom.

zk
zk
19 years ago
Reply to  an

Rich,
I see that the last

Rich,

I see that the last graph uses the Case-Shiller HPI. That’s nominal prices and not inflation-adjusted, right?

Bugs
Bugs
19 years ago
Reply to  zk

D-E-J-A V-U.
The only

D-E-J-A V-U.

The only aspect about this surge that would surprise me is if it triggered a 300% increase in sales activity that would burn off all the excess inventory and reverse the current supply/demand dynamic. That would be a surprise. A 3 or 4-month rally that “recovers” 2% of the 12% loss from last year is basically part of the pattern of a declining market, as is the inevitable overcorrection once it goes negative again.

As I’ve said before, from an economic standpoint we really wouldn’t like what happened if 100% of all buyers came to the same recognition of a declining market at the same time. As selfish as it is to say this, the regional economy really is better off if some buyers are a little dumber than others.

recordsclerk
recordsclerk
19 years ago

I don’t think these new
I don’t think these new purchases were based on any type of news related to housing. I think it was just the right time in their lives, so they made the move. I don’t think there was enough news out there to support purchasing a home, so the people on the fence are still on the fence. I personally could not afford to purchase a home right now, so waiting for the bubble burst is my only choice. So some times regardless of the housing situation, you just buy because it’s the right time in your life. I think it’s a bad time to buy house right now. I still think they are going to tank. People do the stangest things, they buy at the stangest times. People get laid off, so they go shopping to make themselves feel better. People get a $.50 an hour raise and go out a buy a new car. So why can’t some people just go out and buy a house because they just fell like it. It may be the biggest purchase of your life, but what the heck it’s just money and it’s not even yours.

Anonymous
Anonymous
19 years ago

Hate to be the one to say I
Hate to be the one to say I told you so, but, I told you so. There will be no great correction. Eventually you guys are gonna get it, we do not live in a free market economy. We have not had a true recession since Ronald Reagan was in office. The Fed has manipulated and controlled the economy to avoid these unsavory episodes successfully for over 20 years. You can bitch and complain all you want but you are never going to beat the Fed. Fact is you got your couple of percent decrease and an extra bathroom, better grab it. The Fed is not letting this baby go to the crapper. And for all the hanger ons, a word to the wise, if you cant buy now, then you wont be able to buy next year or the year after that. Renting is not cheaper, it is throwing money away. Worse than leasing a car, you have nothing. So keep paying the rent and deluding yourself, in the meantime, Rents will continue to rise and your getting squeezed. Find a way to make more money or get out. Your low rent ride is coming to an end, courtesy of Ben Bernanke.

Good Luck.

sdcellar
sdcellar
19 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Actually, you love to be the
Actually, you love to be the one who says I told you so, but there isn’t anything to tell yet. Real estate (and the world in general) is cyclical and you’ve done nothing to demonstrate otherwise. You drop by once a month or so and ramble on about nothing substantive.

You go ahead and buy something today, I’ll keep renting, then come back by in a couple years and let me know how well you’re doing. Right now, house values are still dramatically down.

Oh, and you can keep your so called good luck. You’re gonna need it.

rockclimber
rockclimber
19 years ago
Reply to  sdcellar

I appreciate guy1 coming
I appreciate guy1 coming around. It’s great for my lunch-time laugh.

Let me tell you what is delusional… buying a 4S Ranch McMansion for $800k when the same house rents for $2500/mo. The property tax alone is almost half the rent (1.7% for the next 40 years). Add in insurance, debt service, upkeep… it is really a no-brainer for anyone who gives it a little thought or is not being motivated by something irrational.

That’s my guess with guy1. He’s probably a flipper who’s holding the bag big time on a couple suicide loans. Facing reality is hard and any glimmer of hope (like this month’s data) become an emotional rally point.

I think there are also a lot of folks on this board equally irrational to the other extreme. Somewhere in the middle is probably reality.

sdcellar
sdcellar
19 years ago
Reply to  rockclimber

I enjoy alternative
I enjoy alternative viewpoints as well, I just don’t find guy1’s very meaty. I will agree he is funny every once in a while. I would also agree that we’ve got both ends of the spectrum here. You and I are probably the most realistic 😉

Bugs
Bugs
19 years ago
Reply to  sdcellar

According to Sandicor, in
According to Sandicor, in January 2006 we had a total of 2,041 detached/attached sales. In January of 2007 we had a total of 1,816 detached/attached sales. Current listings top 17,000; Last year it was about 6,000 right around this time.

I can’t input a search for comps on a single family residence in San Diego County and not run across at least one or 2 listings per search that involve a short sale or foreclosure.

Tell me again how stable this market is? ‘Cause on the face of it we seem to be looking at a 2007 that might be just as bad as 2006.