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[quote=patientrenter]I don’t know why we have to pick out illegal immigrants or army volunteers for examples of men who give up a lot materially when they marry and have kids. Most guys are happy to have money for a simple place to live, beer, a big TV and cable, a pool table, golf, a nice car… and they put the rest aside to hasten the day when they can spend all their time enjoying nothing but the above.

Adding the expenses of a wife and kids dramatically reduces the budget for his ideal lifestyle. That’s the real Daddy tax. I am not complaining, just pointing out that there’s a certain symmetry here.[/quote]

PR, what about the woman who questions why they would want to get married so they can contribute their earnings to the guy’s lifestyle of pool, cars and golf? What about her own needs for a nice car and golf habit? What about the woman who makes more than the man? Something like 25% of woman earn more than her man.

I think that is the modern day conundrum. To Acetia’s point and TG’s, I think in past generations, men’s and women’s role’s were far more clearly defined. Nuclear families were more likely to be intact. Man’s job: Bring home the bacon , do the manly stuff around the house like fixing things, take out the trash, fix the cars, etc. Woman: Nurture the family including keeping a beautiful home, cooking meals, cleaning, and taking care of the kids…oh and taking care of her man. I don’t know if people were happy with their roles, but it was what it was.

Look at modern life now. Both people work and often there are no clearly defined roles. What happens now is people fight or constantly negotiate who cooks, does the domestic chores, picks up the kids from school, helps kids with homework, bathes them, etc. How many couples sit down and define what roles they will play, and then accept it and actually live it? Both people can’t be the CEO. Someone has to be the janitor, the cook, the CFO, etc. You can’t decide to just share everything 50/50 because lets face it, someone always ends up doing more or shouldering the executive decision making. Who wears the pants in the family/relationship?

What is shocking to me is I see very few relationships where those who’ve adopted the modern life are in harmony. Happiest couples I know are the traditional ones. Man works, woman stays at home. Often times the woman used to be a high powered career woman herself, but chose to give it up when the 2nd or 3rd child came. Often times the man brings home the bacon, but the woman controls the finances. You would not believe how many men I know have said if their wife decided to screw with him and leave him, he’d be f’d because he lets his wife handle all the finances. I don’t understand the dynamics often, but those marriages where those roles are CLEAR and more traditional seem to have the least amount of conflict and those are the couples I know that are still married.

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[quote=patientrenter]I don’t know why we have to pick out illegal immigrants or army volunteers for examples of men who give up a lot materially when they marry and have kids. Most guys are happy to have money for a simple place to live, beer, a big TV and cable, a pool table, golf, a nice car… and they put the rest aside to hasten the day when they can spend all their time enjoying nothing but the above.

Adding the expenses of a wife and kids dramatically reduces the budget for his ideal lifestyle. That’s the real Daddy tax. I am not complaining, just pointing out that there’s a certain symmetry here.[/quote]

PR, what about the woman who questions why they would want to get married so they can contribute their earnings to the guy’s lifestyle of pool, cars and golf? What about her own needs for a nice car and golf habit? What about the woman who makes more than the man? Something like 25% of woman earn more than her man.

I think that is the modern day conundrum. To Acetia’s point and TG’s, I think in past generations, men’s and women’s role’s were far more clearly defined. Nuclear families were more likely to be intact. Man’s job: Bring home the bacon , do the manly stuff around the house like fixing things, take out the trash, fix the cars, etc. Woman: Nurture the family including keeping a beautiful home, cooking meals, cleaning, and taking care of the kids…oh and taking care of her man. I don’t know if people were happy with their roles, but it was what it was.

Look at modern life now. Both people work and often there are no clearly defined roles. What happens now is people fight or constantly negotiate who cooks, does the domestic chores, picks up the kids from school, helps kids with homework, bathes them, etc. How many couples sit down and define what roles they will play, and then accept it and actually live it? Both people can’t be the CEO. Someone has to be the janitor, the cook, the CFO, etc. You can’t decide to just share everything 50/50 because lets face it, someone always ends up doing more or shouldering the executive decision making. Who wears the pants in the family/relationship?

What is shocking to me is I see very few relationships where those who’ve adopted the modern life are in harmony. Happiest couples I know are the traditional ones. Man works, woman stays at home. Often times the woman used to be a high powered career woman herself, but chose to give it up when the 2nd or 3rd child came. Often times the man brings home the bacon, but the woman controls the finances. You would not believe how many men I know have said if their wife decided to screw with him and leave him, he’d be f’d because he lets his wife handle all the finances. I don’t understand the dynamics often, but those marriages where those roles are CLEAR and more traditional seem to have the least amount of conflict and those are the couples I know that are still married.

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Lets go back to the comment about 4-5 miles outside of downtown. Its actually 8 miles from downtown to the east. If you nor your friend are familiar with downtown, I suggest you both come downtown and then drive south, or drive east. I think it will be eye opening. I don’t know the crime stats for the particular area of the condo you listed, but the demographics going just a few miles in either direction of downtown, that being 92101, is very very diverse. There are some nice neighborhoods and there are some very bad ones.

Why the belief that it would be easy to rent?

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Lets go back to the comment about 4-5 miles outside of downtown. Its actually 8 miles from downtown to the east. If you nor your friend are familiar with downtown, I suggest you both come downtown and then drive south, or drive east. I think it will be eye opening. I don’t know the crime stats for the particular area of the condo you listed, but the demographics going just a few miles in either direction of downtown, that being 92101, is very very diverse. There are some nice neighborhoods and there are some very bad ones.

Why the belief that it would be easy to rent?

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Lets go back to the comment about 4-5 miles outside of downtown. Its actually 8 miles from downtown to the east. If you nor your friend are familiar with downtown, I suggest you both come downtown and then drive south, or drive east. I think it will be eye opening. I don’t know the crime stats for the particular area of the condo you listed, but the demographics going just a few miles in either direction of downtown, that being 92101, is very very diverse. There are some nice neighborhoods and there are some very bad ones.

Why the belief that it would be easy to rent?

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Lets go back to the comment about 4-5 miles outside of downtown. Its actually 8 miles from downtown to the east. If you nor your friend are familiar with downtown, I suggest you both come downtown and then drive south, or drive east. I think it will be eye opening. I don’t know the crime stats for the particular area of the condo you listed, but the demographics going just a few miles in either direction of downtown, that being 92101, is very very diverse. There are some nice neighborhoods and there are some very bad ones.

Why the belief that it would be easy to rent?

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Lets go back to the comment about 4-5 miles outside of downtown. Its actually 8 miles from downtown to the east. If you nor your friend are familiar with downtown, I suggest you both come downtown and then drive south, or drive east. I think it will be eye opening. I don’t know the crime stats for the particular area of the condo you listed, but the demographics going just a few miles in either direction of downtown, that being 92101, is very very diverse. There are some nice neighborhoods and there are some very bad ones.

Why the belief that it would be easy to rent?

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I would not consider this downtown, 92101

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I would not consider this downtown, 92101

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I would not consider this downtown, 92101

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I would not consider this downtown, 92101

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I would not consider this downtown, 92101

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[quote=Irish]This little “updated” Craftsman is in a decent area of Northpark and should rent for $1500 or so per month.[/quote]

Irish, if I remember correctly, the couple wanted $2100 for rent on this house.

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[quote=Irish]This little “updated” Craftsman is in a decent area of Northpark and should rent for $1500 or so per month.[/quote]

Irish, if I remember correctly, the couple wanted $2100 for rent on this house.

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[quote=Irish]This little “updated” Craftsman is in a decent area of Northpark and should rent for $1500 or so per month.[/quote]

Irish, if I remember correctly, the couple wanted $2100 for rent on this house.

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