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Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook] As a Catholic, I believe the bible is contextual, not literal,[/quote]
What good is it having the word of god if you can interpret it any way you want? Doesn’t it then become the word of whoever is interpreting it however he wants, and not the word of god?
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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]
Oooooohhhhhh. That jesus! [/quote]
Hilarious!
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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]
Rudeness requires a certain intent. Christian converters are just kind of pitying at best or oblivious at worst to other possible narratives of how reality works.[/quote]That gives them a benefit of the doubt that I’m not sure I’m willing to give them. Perhaps they know there’s no chance you’ll convert, and they know they’re annoying you, but they want to get to heaven, so they’re selfishly annoying you to achieve their own goal.
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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]I think many converters have a strange fantasy that there are vast hordes of Americans who simplyb h Avent been told about Jesus and the good news about getting saved. That’s why they have to let you know … it’s like letting people in on a legal little known tax break. It’s just so great. The word isntvout. It’s free money. How could you not want to hear about it?[/quote]
That is a strange fantasy. Not as strange as some of the ones I have. But strange nonetheless.
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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]Well. Ok. This isn’t weird, outdated, out of context bible quoting … this is a reality for millions of Americans today.
this was one quote to support the general duty to evangelize and spread the good word. I’m not implying it’s rude to do so. I’m saying from the Christian point of view you have a responsibility to let people know about Jesus. You’d be amiss to not let others know about the greatness that is jesus. You can’t get into heaven otherwise. It’s a service. For Mormons and jehovahs witnesses it’s not even optional.[/quote]
Yes, it’s a reality for millions of Americans. And yes, from their point of view they have that responsibility. None of that changes the fact that it’s rude and ignorant. My point was that, just because it’s in the bible and just because it’s their responsibility according to the bible, doesn’t make it any less rude or any less ignorant. There are countless indefensible quotes in the bible, and to imply that something is ok because it’s in the bible doesn’t fly.
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Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]Matthew 28:19. “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations.”
New testaments pretty clear.
Get fresh recruits …other citation support that.
It’s not irritating from the converters point if view. He us literally trying to save your soul so that you don’t spend all eternity rotting in hell.
You should be grateful[/quote]
Yeah, let’s start throwing bible quotes around and see if we can’t come up with a thousand reasons to call followers of that book rude, ignorant, or countless other unflattering adjectives.
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Participant[quote=flyer]If someone forces their views upon you, just tell them you’re not interested, as you have stated here.
I’ve told many people who insisted on sharing their beliefs with me that I’m not interested because I’m very happy and secure in my own beliefs, and, frankly, have no interest whatsoever in their beliefs–or lack thereof.
Sometimes you have to be firm, but, it can be done.[/quote]
Sure, it can be done. But it shouldn’t have to be done. It’s like a guy hitting on a girl who’s clearly out of his league (in that there’s very little chance she’ll want to hear anything he has to say), and persisting despite her clear lack of interest until she has to be firm about it. That’s downright rude. Same as trying to convert a stranger. Not a crime. Not even a huge deal. But quite rude and quite ignorant.
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Participant[quote=Blogstar]The atheists, agnostics, and Freethinkers are motivated to prove that you don’t need religion to be good and the religious people think they are good enough without really doing anything for the homeless guy. The results are skewed by these things.[/quote]
I would agree with this. I would also say that many “bad” people use their “faith” to convince themselves and others that they’re not bad people.
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ParticipantYeah, 50 (two years ago for me) was definitely different from 30 or 40.
Here’s when I felt like I’d been around a while: I was computing how many days I’d been working for the company I work for (for seniority purposes). I kept getting a number 8 days different from my employer. I’d been counting 365 days in a year. Turns out I wasn’t counting the EIGHT leap days since I’ve been there. Jesus.
Hitting 50 really made me sit down and ask myself what I want out of the rest of my life and what I’m going to do about it. Although it took another couple years to really come to me. Turns out it isn’t a bucket list type of deal. Heck, I don’t really even feel the need to see the world anymore. I just want to do what I’m doing as long as possible. Spend time with the wife and kid, get in as many rounds of golf, softball games, ping pong games, days at the lake, r/c plane flights, body surfing waves, etc. as I can while I can. Then, if my body can’t take that stuff anymore, I guess I’ll replace the more strenuous hobbies with less strenuous ones.
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Participant[quote=CA renter]
BTW, am LOVING the longer days![/quote]Yes! Longer days! Here’s how I think we should define summer here in San Diego: From the first day of daylight saving time to the last. That’s mid March to early November.
Gotta love it.
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ParticipantJust make sure the don’t come on your lawn. And if they do, yell at ’em to get off your lawn.
Seriously, though, I’d be way more worried about the pitbulls than the girls. Especially if you have kids.
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ParticipantWhether it’s worth it depends on where you live, imho. The potential for earthquakes of a size to significantly damage a wood-frame home varies drastically within California.
http://nsmp.wr.usgs.gov/ekalkan/California/index.html
You can zoom in pretty close on the maps and it’s quite detailed.
In the red areas, it might be worth it. In the green areas, probably not.
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Participant[quote=UCGal] I don’t like paying taxes – but I do like freeways, education, a safety net for those less fortunate, etc.
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That’s something you don’t hear nearly enough.
March 10, 2014 at 7:49 PM in reply to: OT: California sure seems to care more about the rights of Orcas @ Seaworld more so than… #771731zk
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]AP taoism.[/quote]
That’s a scaredyclassic classic, right there.
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