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Participant[quote=jficquette]I was reading yesterday where it said Obama had dual citzenships, Keny and the US. Kenya does not allow dual citizenships. So he either had to rennouce his US citizenship or he became a US Citzen after he was a Kenyan citizen and Kenya was never notified
Also check this issue out. It looks like Obama was born in Kenya. He ain’t even eligible to be Prez.
John
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4375
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I’m curious, John (and LaJolla pig and Brutus): How do you guys decide whether to believe something you read on the internet? Or do you not give that any thought at all and just believe whatever you want to believe?
zk
Participant[quote=lajolla-pig]Obama backed his luo tribe in the recent Kenyen ethnic cleansing. You remember the Luo…they are the muslims who declared that ‘their’ lands must be ‘purified’ by slaughtering or burning all the ‘infidel’ Christians who dared to live amoung them. The leader of the Luo is a relative and dear friend of Obama. Obama campaigned for him. He also happens to be the one that gave the genocidal order to eliminate all non-muslims so Obama’s people could live free from contact with ‘infidels’.[/quote]
I think it’s really unfortunate that so many people believe whatever they read on the internet.
I would find it humorous that they wave their ignorance around like a banner of righteousness if it weren’t for the fact that so many others believe whatever somebody said they heard on the internet and continue to spread it and then all those people vote based on what their complete lack of skepticism leads them to believe are facts.
zk
Participant[quote=lajolla-pig]Obama backed his luo tribe in the recent Kenyen ethnic cleansing. You remember the Luo…they are the muslims who declared that ‘their’ lands must be ‘purified’ by slaughtering or burning all the ‘infidel’ Christians who dared to live amoung them. The leader of the Luo is a relative and dear friend of Obama. Obama campaigned for him. He also happens to be the one that gave the genocidal order to eliminate all non-muslims so Obama’s people could live free from contact with ‘infidels’.[/quote]
I think it’s really unfortunate that so many people believe whatever they read on the internet.
I would find it humorous that they wave their ignorance around like a banner of righteousness if it weren’t for the fact that so many others believe whatever somebody said they heard on the internet and continue to spread it and then all those people vote based on what their complete lack of skepticism leads them to believe are facts.
zk
Participant[quote=lajolla-pig]Obama backed his luo tribe in the recent Kenyen ethnic cleansing. You remember the Luo…they are the muslims who declared that ‘their’ lands must be ‘purified’ by slaughtering or burning all the ‘infidel’ Christians who dared to live amoung them. The leader of the Luo is a relative and dear friend of Obama. Obama campaigned for him. He also happens to be the one that gave the genocidal order to eliminate all non-muslims so Obama’s people could live free from contact with ‘infidels’.[/quote]
I think it’s really unfortunate that so many people believe whatever they read on the internet.
I would find it humorous that they wave their ignorance around like a banner of righteousness if it weren’t for the fact that so many others believe whatever somebody said they heard on the internet and continue to spread it and then all those people vote based on what their complete lack of skepticism leads them to believe are facts.
zk
Participant[quote=lajolla-pig]Obama backed his luo tribe in the recent Kenyen ethnic cleansing. You remember the Luo…they are the muslims who declared that ‘their’ lands must be ‘purified’ by slaughtering or burning all the ‘infidel’ Christians who dared to live amoung them. The leader of the Luo is a relative and dear friend of Obama. Obama campaigned for him. He also happens to be the one that gave the genocidal order to eliminate all non-muslims so Obama’s people could live free from contact with ‘infidels’.[/quote]
I think it’s really unfortunate that so many people believe whatever they read on the internet.
I would find it humorous that they wave their ignorance around like a banner of righteousness if it weren’t for the fact that so many others believe whatever somebody said they heard on the internet and continue to spread it and then all those people vote based on what their complete lack of skepticism leads them to believe are facts.
zk
Participant[quote=lajolla-pig]Obama backed his luo tribe in the recent Kenyen ethnic cleansing. You remember the Luo…they are the muslims who declared that ‘their’ lands must be ‘purified’ by slaughtering or burning all the ‘infidel’ Christians who dared to live amoung them. The leader of the Luo is a relative and dear friend of Obama. Obama campaigned for him. He also happens to be the one that gave the genocidal order to eliminate all non-muslims so Obama’s people could live free from contact with ‘infidels’.[/quote]
I think it’s really unfortunate that so many people believe whatever they read on the internet.
I would find it humorous that they wave their ignorance around like a banner of righteousness if it weren’t for the fact that so many others believe whatever somebody said they heard on the internet and continue to spread it and then all those people vote based on what their complete lack of skepticism leads them to believe are facts.
zk
ParticipantMaybe you can help me with this, Marion. Here’s what I don’t understand.
So many people in this country act like they have a right not to be offended. They act like they are a victim if they are offended. They act like, if they call another person out for offending them, that they (the offended) are righteous and the offender is guilty of some crime. I don’t understand that.
In my opinion, the only thing people who are offended are a victim of is their own weak minds. If someone spouts something ignorant (in your opinion), and you don’t have a weak mind, your response (in my opinion) would be to say, “I think you’re ignorant, and here’s why I think that.” Or to ignore them. Why does it hurt you that someone else is ignorant? Ignorance is ubiquitous world-wide. People are saying ignorant things on a constant basis. What difference does it make that what they’re saying is said in your vicinity and on a subject you care about?
You say, “In case you missed it I’m BLACK and your thread is highly offensive to me and most other African-Americans.” What is your point? Are you saying that therefore he shouldn’t have posted his post?
If someone says something ignorant or untrue, and you let it offend you or hurt you, that’s your fault. If what a person says really does show ignorance or bias or hate or whatever, that says something about that person. Not about you. So why does it offend you? It’s really got nothing to do with you. Unless you let it bother you. But why would you let it bother you? And (and this is the part that really confuses me) why would you get all righteous about it?
Disclaimer: I’m not calling anyone ignorant or biased or hateful. I’m saying that Marion appears to see them that way.
zk
ParticipantMaybe you can help me with this, Marion. Here’s what I don’t understand.
So many people in this country act like they have a right not to be offended. They act like they are a victim if they are offended. They act like, if they call another person out for offending them, that they (the offended) are righteous and the offender is guilty of some crime. I don’t understand that.
In my opinion, the only thing people who are offended are a victim of is their own weak minds. If someone spouts something ignorant (in your opinion), and you don’t have a weak mind, your response (in my opinion) would be to say, “I think you’re ignorant, and here’s why I think that.” Or to ignore them. Why does it hurt you that someone else is ignorant? Ignorance is ubiquitous world-wide. People are saying ignorant things on a constant basis. What difference does it make that what they’re saying is said in your vicinity and on a subject you care about?
You say, “In case you missed it I’m BLACK and your thread is highly offensive to me and most other African-Americans.” What is your point? Are you saying that therefore he shouldn’t have posted his post?
If someone says something ignorant or untrue, and you let it offend you or hurt you, that’s your fault. If what a person says really does show ignorance or bias or hate or whatever, that says something about that person. Not about you. So why does it offend you? It’s really got nothing to do with you. Unless you let it bother you. But why would you let it bother you? And (and this is the part that really confuses me) why would you get all righteous about it?
Disclaimer: I’m not calling anyone ignorant or biased or hateful. I’m saying that Marion appears to see them that way.
zk
ParticipantMaybe you can help me with this, Marion. Here’s what I don’t understand.
So many people in this country act like they have a right not to be offended. They act like they are a victim if they are offended. They act like, if they call another person out for offending them, that they (the offended) are righteous and the offender is guilty of some crime. I don’t understand that.
In my opinion, the only thing people who are offended are a victim of is their own weak minds. If someone spouts something ignorant (in your opinion), and you don’t have a weak mind, your response (in my opinion) would be to say, “I think you’re ignorant, and here’s why I think that.” Or to ignore them. Why does it hurt you that someone else is ignorant? Ignorance is ubiquitous world-wide. People are saying ignorant things on a constant basis. What difference does it make that what they’re saying is said in your vicinity and on a subject you care about?
You say, “In case you missed it I’m BLACK and your thread is highly offensive to me and most other African-Americans.” What is your point? Are you saying that therefore he shouldn’t have posted his post?
If someone says something ignorant or untrue, and you let it offend you or hurt you, that’s your fault. If what a person says really does show ignorance or bias or hate or whatever, that says something about that person. Not about you. So why does it offend you? It’s really got nothing to do with you. Unless you let it bother you. But why would you let it bother you? And (and this is the part that really confuses me) why would you get all righteous about it?
Disclaimer: I’m not calling anyone ignorant or biased or hateful. I’m saying that Marion appears to see them that way.
zk
ParticipantMaybe you can help me with this, Marion. Here’s what I don’t understand.
So many people in this country act like they have a right not to be offended. They act like they are a victim if they are offended. They act like, if they call another person out for offending them, that they (the offended) are righteous and the offender is guilty of some crime. I don’t understand that.
In my opinion, the only thing people who are offended are a victim of is their own weak minds. If someone spouts something ignorant (in your opinion), and you don’t have a weak mind, your response (in my opinion) would be to say, “I think you’re ignorant, and here’s why I think that.” Or to ignore them. Why does it hurt you that someone else is ignorant? Ignorance is ubiquitous world-wide. People are saying ignorant things on a constant basis. What difference does it make that what they’re saying is said in your vicinity and on a subject you care about?
You say, “In case you missed it I’m BLACK and your thread is highly offensive to me and most other African-Americans.” What is your point? Are you saying that therefore he shouldn’t have posted his post?
If someone says something ignorant or untrue, and you let it offend you or hurt you, that’s your fault. If what a person says really does show ignorance or bias or hate or whatever, that says something about that person. Not about you. So why does it offend you? It’s really got nothing to do with you. Unless you let it bother you. But why would you let it bother you? And (and this is the part that really confuses me) why would you get all righteous about it?
Disclaimer: I’m not calling anyone ignorant or biased or hateful. I’m saying that Marion appears to see them that way.
zk
ParticipantMaybe you can help me with this, Marion. Here’s what I don’t understand.
So many people in this country act like they have a right not to be offended. They act like they are a victim if they are offended. They act like, if they call another person out for offending them, that they (the offended) are righteous and the offender is guilty of some crime. I don’t understand that.
In my opinion, the only thing people who are offended are a victim of is their own weak minds. If someone spouts something ignorant (in your opinion), and you don’t have a weak mind, your response (in my opinion) would be to say, “I think you’re ignorant, and here’s why I think that.” Or to ignore them. Why does it hurt you that someone else is ignorant? Ignorance is ubiquitous world-wide. People are saying ignorant things on a constant basis. What difference does it make that what they’re saying is said in your vicinity and on a subject you care about?
You say, “In case you missed it I’m BLACK and your thread is highly offensive to me and most other African-Americans.” What is your point? Are you saying that therefore he shouldn’t have posted his post?
If someone says something ignorant or untrue, and you let it offend you or hurt you, that’s your fault. If what a person says really does show ignorance or bias or hate or whatever, that says something about that person. Not about you. So why does it offend you? It’s really got nothing to do with you. Unless you let it bother you. But why would you let it bother you? And (and this is the part that really confuses me) why would you get all righteous about it?
Disclaimer: I’m not calling anyone ignorant or biased or hateful. I’m saying that Marion appears to see them that way.
zk
ParticipantI’ve noticed that places with super-high mello roos and/or hoa fees seem to be going down the fastest. Notably Stonebridge and the places mentioned on this thread. I guess during the frenzy, people just figured they’d make so much money on their houses,it wouldn’t matter. They looked at it as part of their “investment” that they’d get back when their house shot up in price. Now, they look at it as a monthly expense that they have to pay out of their own wages. That’s a huge difference psychologically.
zk
ParticipantI’ve noticed that places with super-high mello roos and/or hoa fees seem to be going down the fastest. Notably Stonebridge and the places mentioned on this thread. I guess during the frenzy, people just figured they’d make so much money on their houses,it wouldn’t matter. They looked at it as part of their “investment” that they’d get back when their house shot up in price. Now, they look at it as a monthly expense that they have to pay out of their own wages. That’s a huge difference psychologically.
zk
ParticipantI’ve noticed that places with super-high mello roos and/or hoa fees seem to be going down the fastest. Notably Stonebridge and the places mentioned on this thread. I guess during the frenzy, people just figured they’d make so much money on their houses,it wouldn’t matter. They looked at it as part of their “investment” that they’d get back when their house shot up in price. Now, they look at it as a monthly expense that they have to pay out of their own wages. That’s a huge difference psychologically.
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