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Participant[quote=jficquette]
The only way to know for sure if Obama is eligable to be president would be for him to produce a real birth certificate but he refuses to do so.If someone refuses to provide proof of birth then what choices are one left with as to what to believe? Very few. One has to consider that maybe he is not eligible or else why not provide the BC??
Here is another article on his BC. http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/
John
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I read the article you cited, John, and you’re only bolstering my point that you and so many others will believe what they read on the internet regardless of its easy disprovability.
I was watching a documentary on the hippie movement the other day, and towards the end Steve Jobs was talking (in the ’70s) about how personal computers will take so much power out of the hands of “the man” and give it to the people. And that did, in some ways, come to pass. But along with it came a whole new era of ignorance and hysteria.
I think most of the (very large) segment of the population that eschews skepticism would, prior to their internet access, simply not get involved too much in politics. They were busy getting their palms read or looking at their horoscopes or attending seances. But political operatives have learned that they can spoon feed easy-to-access, easy-to-read, bite-sized chunks of bull slop to these people and get them to vote for (or against) the candidates they like (or don’t like).
John, I think you should stand up to these people who are pulling the wool over your eyes. Don’t let them make a fool of you.
zk
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I don’t think anyone, including Teddy Roosevelt himself, would have a clue on how to handle this.
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Allan, I assume you’ve read “Theodore Rex.” Probably my favorite biography. He lived more life and accomplished more than 10 ordinary men. A true American hero.
zk
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I don’t think anyone, including Teddy Roosevelt himself, would have a clue on how to handle this.
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Allan, I assume you’ve read “Theodore Rex.” Probably my favorite biography. He lived more life and accomplished more than 10 ordinary men. A true American hero.
zk
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I don’t think anyone, including Teddy Roosevelt himself, would have a clue on how to handle this.
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Allan, I assume you’ve read “Theodore Rex.” Probably my favorite biography. He lived more life and accomplished more than 10 ordinary men. A true American hero.
zk
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I don’t think anyone, including Teddy Roosevelt himself, would have a clue on how to handle this.
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Allan, I assume you’ve read “Theodore Rex.” Probably my favorite biography. He lived more life and accomplished more than 10 ordinary men. A true American hero.
zk
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]John: I don’t think anyone, including Teddy Roosevelt himself, would have a clue on how to handle this.
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Allan, I assume you’ve read “Theodore Rex.” Probably my favorite biography. He lived more life and accomplished more than 10 ordinary men. A true American hero.
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]
Some believe/ignore things based on personal feelings. Some take a fact based approach as to what they believe but in the end we all believe what we want to believe.John[/quote]
Well, that’s arguable. But, generally, believing what you want to believe doesn’t really apply to easily provable (or disprovable) things. It’s quite easy to find out whether Obama is really eligible to be president. Whether he was born in Kenya or Hawaii.Yet you appear to choose not to find out. Why is that?
If you are going to get all the information you can in order to make larger decisions, then the least you could do (if you care whether or not you’re going to make good decisions) is to get the easy stuff right. How do you expect to make good decisions on larger issues (like who to vote for) if you don’t bother to take a few seconds to find out what’s true and what’s not?
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]I was reading yesterday where it said Obama had dual citzenships, Keny and the US. Kenya does not allow dual citizenships. So he either had to rennouce his US citizenship or he became a US Citzen after he was a Kenyan citizen and Kenya was never notified
Also check this issue out. It looks like Obama was born in Kenya. He ain’t even eligible to be Prez.
John
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4375
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I’m curious, John (and LaJolla pig and Brutus): How do you guys decide whether to believe something you read on the internet? Or do you not give that any thought at all and just believe whatever you want to believe?
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]I was reading yesterday where it said Obama had dual citzenships, Keny and the US. Kenya does not allow dual citizenships. So he either had to rennouce his US citizenship or he became a US Citzen after he was a Kenyan citizen and Kenya was never notified
Also check this issue out. It looks like Obama was born in Kenya. He ain’t even eligible to be Prez.
John
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4375
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I’m curious, John (and LaJolla pig and Brutus): How do you guys decide whether to believe something you read on the internet? Or do you not give that any thought at all and just believe whatever you want to believe?
zk
Participant[quote=jficquette]I was reading yesterday where it said Obama had dual citzenships, Keny and the US. Kenya does not allow dual citizenships. So he either had to rennouce his US citizenship or he became a US Citzen after he was a Kenyan citizen and Kenya was never notified
Also check this issue out. It looks like Obama was born in Kenya. He ain’t even eligible to be Prez.
John
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4375
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I’m curious, John (and LaJolla pig and Brutus): How do you guys decide whether to believe something you read on the internet? Or do you not give that any thought at all and just believe whatever you want to believe?
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