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XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=yellow8yellowm]We can safely assume that either Obama or McCain will be the next president. From a purely logical/realist standpoint, your vote or non-vote is going to influence which one will be in office.[/quote]
Sorry, but I absolutely disagree. I live in California and California will cast all of its electoral college votes for the Democratic nominee. It is such a certain, that McCain will not even both to campaign here. If we didn’t have an electoral college, I would feel differently. BUT we do have an electoral college and there is no way that my vote is going to influence who is in office so let’s not pretend that it will.
[quote=yellow8yellowm]Voting is our right, but it is the minium we can do to serve our own ends and your country’s.
[/quote]This part I can agree with. I will vote. (I pretty much always do)
But the point of my post, and my point still is: I can not for one minute understand why anyone with half a brain could support McCain. (And actually, yes you could extend that to Obama too) And so my question was, and still is to those of you who post on Piggington’s with Pro McCain attitudes, how can you do that with a straight face? It’s one thing to say, OMG he’s terrible, but he’s better than Obama. But it’s a totally different thing to actually be “for” him and to think he’s got what it takes to be a good president.
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=yellow8yellowm]We can safely assume that either Obama or McCain will be the next president. From a purely logical/realist standpoint, your vote or non-vote is going to influence which one will be in office.[/quote]
Sorry, but I absolutely disagree. I live in California and California will cast all of its electoral college votes for the Democratic nominee. It is such a certain, that McCain will not even both to campaign here. If we didn’t have an electoral college, I would feel differently. BUT we do have an electoral college and there is no way that my vote is going to influence who is in office so let’s not pretend that it will.
[quote=yellow8yellowm]Voting is our right, but it is the minium we can do to serve our own ends and your country’s.
[/quote]This part I can agree with. I will vote. (I pretty much always do)
But the point of my post, and my point still is: I can not for one minute understand why anyone with half a brain could support McCain. (And actually, yes you could extend that to Obama too) And so my question was, and still is to those of you who post on Piggington’s with Pro McCain attitudes, how can you do that with a straight face? It’s one thing to say, OMG he’s terrible, but he’s better than Obama. But it’s a totally different thing to actually be “for” him and to think he’s got what it takes to be a good president.
XBoxBoy
ParticipantIn California it really doesn’t matter who you vote for, all 54 electoral votes will go to the Democratic candidate. That’s pretty much a given. (Intrade.com is currently giving odds of 94% chance of Obama carrying Cali. 7% for McCain) If you lived in a swing state, your vote might count for something, but with the electoral college system and living in California, it doesn’t.
If what you want to do is vote, “I protest this whole stupid charade.” then it probably also doesn’t matter whether you write in Ron Paul or vote for Chuck Baldwin, ’cause as much as it saddens me, no one is listening to that protest either.
XBoxBoy
ParticipantIn California it really doesn’t matter who you vote for, all 54 electoral votes will go to the Democratic candidate. That’s pretty much a given. (Intrade.com is currently giving odds of 94% chance of Obama carrying Cali. 7% for McCain) If you lived in a swing state, your vote might count for something, but with the electoral college system and living in California, it doesn’t.
If what you want to do is vote, “I protest this whole stupid charade.” then it probably also doesn’t matter whether you write in Ron Paul or vote for Chuck Baldwin, ’cause as much as it saddens me, no one is listening to that protest either.
XBoxBoy
ParticipantIn California it really doesn’t matter who you vote for, all 54 electoral votes will go to the Democratic candidate. That’s pretty much a given. (Intrade.com is currently giving odds of 94% chance of Obama carrying Cali. 7% for McCain) If you lived in a swing state, your vote might count for something, but with the electoral college system and living in California, it doesn’t.
If what you want to do is vote, “I protest this whole stupid charade.” then it probably also doesn’t matter whether you write in Ron Paul or vote for Chuck Baldwin, ’cause as much as it saddens me, no one is listening to that protest either.
XBoxBoy
ParticipantIn California it really doesn’t matter who you vote for, all 54 electoral votes will go to the Democratic candidate. That’s pretty much a given. (Intrade.com is currently giving odds of 94% chance of Obama carrying Cali. 7% for McCain) If you lived in a swing state, your vote might count for something, but with the electoral college system and living in California, it doesn’t.
If what you want to do is vote, “I protest this whole stupid charade.” then it probably also doesn’t matter whether you write in Ron Paul or vote for Chuck Baldwin, ’cause as much as it saddens me, no one is listening to that protest either.
XBoxBoy
ParticipantIn California it really doesn’t matter who you vote for, all 54 electoral votes will go to the Democratic candidate. That’s pretty much a given. (Intrade.com is currently giving odds of 94% chance of Obama carrying Cali. 7% for McCain) If you lived in a swing state, your vote might count for something, but with the electoral college system and living in California, it doesn’t.
If what you want to do is vote, “I protest this whole stupid charade.” then it probably also doesn’t matter whether you write in Ron Paul or vote for Chuck Baldwin, ’cause as much as it saddens me, no one is listening to that protest either.
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cooprider]It looks like it’s all up to the Czar, err, Secretary.[/quote]
Comrade… Surely you don’t mean to question the wisdom of our honorable Comrade Paulson.
Your Comrade in ARMs (Or should that be PayOpts and Helocs?)
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cooprider]It looks like it’s all up to the Czar, err, Secretary.[/quote]
Comrade… Surely you don’t mean to question the wisdom of our honorable Comrade Paulson.
Your Comrade in ARMs (Or should that be PayOpts and Helocs?)
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cooprider]It looks like it’s all up to the Czar, err, Secretary.[/quote]
Comrade… Surely you don’t mean to question the wisdom of our honorable Comrade Paulson.
Your Comrade in ARMs (Or should that be PayOpts and Helocs?)
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cooprider]It looks like it’s all up to the Czar, err, Secretary.[/quote]
Comrade… Surely you don’t mean to question the wisdom of our honorable Comrade Paulson.
Your Comrade in ARMs (Or should that be PayOpts and Helocs?)
XBoxBoy
Participant[quote=cooprider]It looks like it’s all up to the Czar, err, Secretary.[/quote]
Comrade… Surely you don’t mean to question the wisdom of our honorable Comrade Paulson.
Your Comrade in ARMs (Or should that be PayOpts and Helocs?)
XBoxBoy
ParticipantI used Mike Tristany when I sold my house in Kensington in 2004, and was very pleased with his services. I found him to be professional and knowledgeable. He is very familiar with Hillcrest.
XBoxBoy
ParticipantI used Mike Tristany when I sold my house in Kensington in 2004, and was very pleased with his services. I found him to be professional and knowledgeable. He is very familiar with Hillcrest.
XBoxBoy
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