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I a little curious about what all the things you consider HOA relevant, Marion. I agree with you on several (greasy stains, I suppose, trash bags on the side of the house, presuming they are visible from the street, etc.) But what do HOA fees have to do with regular trash in the recyclables, and her son talking to the trash collector? How does that behavior impact anyone around her at all? Also, complaining about a totaled car being in the drive-way for “several days” seems a bit unkind. It’s not as if it was there for months. And foster kids? Do HOAs regulated foster care?

The neighbor sounds a little low-brow, and there are certainly annoyances (loud music late at night is pretty irritating), but I don’t see how some of this is HOA related. Perhaps you just need a pricey enough place to keep out the riff-raff.

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I a little curious about what all the things you consider HOA relevant, Marion. I agree with you on several (greasy stains, I suppose, trash bags on the side of the house, presuming they are visible from the street, etc.) But what do HOA fees have to do with regular trash in the recyclables, and her son talking to the trash collector? How does that behavior impact anyone around her at all? Also, complaining about a totaled car being in the drive-way for “several days” seems a bit unkind. It’s not as if it was there for months. And foster kids? Do HOAs regulated foster care?

The neighbor sounds a little low-brow, and there are certainly annoyances (loud music late at night is pretty irritating), but I don’t see how some of this is HOA related. Perhaps you just need a pricey enough place to keep out the riff-raff.

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I a little curious about what all the things you consider HOA relevant, Marion. I agree with you on several (greasy stains, I suppose, trash bags on the side of the house, presuming they are visible from the street, etc.) But what do HOA fees have to do with regular trash in the recyclables, and her son talking to the trash collector? How does that behavior impact anyone around her at all? Also, complaining about a totaled car being in the drive-way for “several days” seems a bit unkind. It’s not as if it was there for months. And foster kids? Do HOAs regulated foster care?

The neighbor sounds a little low-brow, and there are certainly annoyances (loud music late at night is pretty irritating), but I don’t see how some of this is HOA related. Perhaps you just need a pricey enough place to keep out the riff-raff.

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You can try Rentometer. I’m not sure how accurate it is, as I believe its all user entered data, but it is a place to start.

http://www.rentometer.com/

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You can try Rentometer. I’m not sure how accurate it is, as I believe its all user entered data, but it is a place to start.

http://www.rentometer.com/

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You can try Rentometer. I’m not sure how accurate it is, as I believe its all user entered data, but it is a place to start.

http://www.rentometer.com/

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You can try Rentometer. I’m not sure how accurate it is, as I believe its all user entered data, but it is a place to start.

http://www.rentometer.com/

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You can try Rentometer. I’m not sure how accurate it is, as I believe its all user entered data, but it is a place to start.

http://www.rentometer.com/

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Other tricks of course include the “torture chamber” room where you are supposed to sign all the paperwork. In this room, it’s the guy’s job to get as much money as he can out of you by asking you to buy the Permaplate paint protection package, the $1000+ KARR alarm system (which by the way they will tell you is “Already installed” and you’ll have to wait 2 hours for them to remove the alarm if you want the car without the alarm), extended warranty, and GAP protection.

I’ve been through this as well with my first adult car purhase (not the alarm, but the rest of it). The woman tried to get us to buy all sorts of protections and warranties, one of which overlapped significantly with the “certified Honda warranty that we already had. She kept trying to make the argument that it made sense, and I kept arguing it didn’t, until I finally said: “Okay, let’s do the math…” and proceeded to show her that unless the car required $200 or more per month repairs every month for the first two years that it would be ridiculous to buy the additional warranty… and was she actually suggesting that the vehicle was THAT unreliable?

At which point she came unglued, and proceeded to rant about “stuck-up college-educated jerks” as she hurriedly signed everything else.

These days I would just walk out at such behavior, without closing the deal. I can’t stand that sort of thing, and will never return to that dealer, and would not reward a dealer who allowed that behavior with my business in the future.

With my most recent car purchase when we moved to that stage I just simply looked over the options briefly and stated quite simply that I never purchased them as the financials never made sense. When she tried to persuade me I (gently) reaffirmed my stance and told her there was no way I was going to purchase it and I could repeat that three more times if her job required it. And we moved on.

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Other tricks of course include the “torture chamber” room where you are supposed to sign all the paperwork. In this room, it’s the guy’s job to get as much money as he can out of you by asking you to buy the Permaplate paint protection package, the $1000+ KARR alarm system (which by the way they will tell you is “Already installed” and you’ll have to wait 2 hours for them to remove the alarm if you want the car without the alarm), extended warranty, and GAP protection.

I’ve been through this as well with my first adult car purhase (not the alarm, but the rest of it). The woman tried to get us to buy all sorts of protections and warranties, one of which overlapped significantly with the “certified Honda warranty that we already had. She kept trying to make the argument that it made sense, and I kept arguing it didn’t, until I finally said: “Okay, let’s do the math…” and proceeded to show her that unless the car required $200 or more per month repairs every month for the first two years that it would be ridiculous to buy the additional warranty… and was she actually suggesting that the vehicle was THAT unreliable?

At which point she came unglued, and proceeded to rant about “stuck-up college-educated jerks” as she hurriedly signed everything else.

These days I would just walk out at such behavior, without closing the deal. I can’t stand that sort of thing, and will never return to that dealer, and would not reward a dealer who allowed that behavior with my business in the future.

With my most recent car purchase when we moved to that stage I just simply looked over the options briefly and stated quite simply that I never purchased them as the financials never made sense. When she tried to persuade me I (gently) reaffirmed my stance and told her there was no way I was going to purchase it and I could repeat that three more times if her job required it. And we moved on.

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Other tricks of course include the “torture chamber” room where you are supposed to sign all the paperwork. In this room, it’s the guy’s job to get as much money as he can out of you by asking you to buy the Permaplate paint protection package, the $1000+ KARR alarm system (which by the way they will tell you is “Already installed” and you’ll have to wait 2 hours for them to remove the alarm if you want the car without the alarm), extended warranty, and GAP protection.

I’ve been through this as well with my first adult car purhase (not the alarm, but the rest of it). The woman tried to get us to buy all sorts of protections and warranties, one of which overlapped significantly with the “certified Honda warranty that we already had. She kept trying to make the argument that it made sense, and I kept arguing it didn’t, until I finally said: “Okay, let’s do the math…” and proceeded to show her that unless the car required $200 or more per month repairs every month for the first two years that it would be ridiculous to buy the additional warranty… and was she actually suggesting that the vehicle was THAT unreliable?

At which point she came unglued, and proceeded to rant about “stuck-up college-educated jerks” as she hurriedly signed everything else.

These days I would just walk out at such behavior, without closing the deal. I can’t stand that sort of thing, and will never return to that dealer, and would not reward a dealer who allowed that behavior with my business in the future.

With my most recent car purchase when we moved to that stage I just simply looked over the options briefly and stated quite simply that I never purchased them as the financials never made sense. When she tried to persuade me I (gently) reaffirmed my stance and told her there was no way I was going to purchase it and I could repeat that three more times if her job required it. And we moved on.

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Other tricks of course include the “torture chamber” room where you are supposed to sign all the paperwork. In this room, it’s the guy’s job to get as much money as he can out of you by asking you to buy the Permaplate paint protection package, the $1000+ KARR alarm system (which by the way they will tell you is “Already installed” and you’ll have to wait 2 hours for them to remove the alarm if you want the car without the alarm), extended warranty, and GAP protection.

I’ve been through this as well with my first adult car purhase (not the alarm, but the rest of it). The woman tried to get us to buy all sorts of protections and warranties, one of which overlapped significantly with the “certified Honda warranty that we already had. She kept trying to make the argument that it made sense, and I kept arguing it didn’t, until I finally said: “Okay, let’s do the math…” and proceeded to show her that unless the car required $200 or more per month repairs every month for the first two years that it would be ridiculous to buy the additional warranty… and was she actually suggesting that the vehicle was THAT unreliable?

At which point she came unglued, and proceeded to rant about “stuck-up college-educated jerks” as she hurriedly signed everything else.

These days I would just walk out at such behavior, without closing the deal. I can’t stand that sort of thing, and will never return to that dealer, and would not reward a dealer who allowed that behavior with my business in the future.

With my most recent car purchase when we moved to that stage I just simply looked over the options briefly and stated quite simply that I never purchased them as the financials never made sense. When she tried to persuade me I (gently) reaffirmed my stance and told her there was no way I was going to purchase it and I could repeat that three more times if her job required it. And we moved on.

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Other tricks of course include the “torture chamber” room where you are supposed to sign all the paperwork. In this room, it’s the guy’s job to get as much money as he can out of you by asking you to buy the Permaplate paint protection package, the $1000+ KARR alarm system (which by the way they will tell you is “Already installed” and you’ll have to wait 2 hours for them to remove the alarm if you want the car without the alarm), extended warranty, and GAP protection.

I’ve been through this as well with my first adult car purhase (not the alarm, but the rest of it). The woman tried to get us to buy all sorts of protections and warranties, one of which overlapped significantly with the “certified Honda warranty that we already had. She kept trying to make the argument that it made sense, and I kept arguing it didn’t, until I finally said: “Okay, let’s do the math…” and proceeded to show her that unless the car required $200 or more per month repairs every month for the first two years that it would be ridiculous to buy the additional warranty… and was she actually suggesting that the vehicle was THAT unreliable?

At which point she came unglued, and proceeded to rant about “stuck-up college-educated jerks” as she hurriedly signed everything else.

These days I would just walk out at such behavior, without closing the deal. I can’t stand that sort of thing, and will never return to that dealer, and would not reward a dealer who allowed that behavior with my business in the future.

With my most recent car purchase when we moved to that stage I just simply looked over the options briefly and stated quite simply that I never purchased them as the financials never made sense. When she tried to persuade me I (gently) reaffirmed my stance and told her there was no way I was going to purchase it and I could repeat that three more times if her job required it. And we moved on.

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What area of SD are you looking in? I am looking for 4-5BR in Carmel Valley.

I’m looking (more, perusing, since I’m relatively happy in my current rental) at 3-4 bedrooms in Rancho Penasquitos. It has occurred to me that the recent fires may have upped the demand for rentals, but from the anecdotal comments and other info in this thread it seems bigger than that.

I question the increase in demand from bailing homeowners, though, since those houses are still part of the overall supply.

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What area of SD are you looking in? I am looking for 4-5BR in Carmel Valley.

I’m looking (more, perusing, since I’m relatively happy in my current rental) at 3-4 bedrooms in Rancho Penasquitos. It has occurred to me that the recent fires may have upped the demand for rentals, but from the anecdotal comments and other info in this thread it seems bigger than that.

I question the increase in demand from bailing homeowners, though, since those houses are still part of the overall supply.

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