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Participant[quote=Shadowfax] There is no sense of “pride” in workers at a Walmart (that would encourage them to straighten up shelves, etc.) because they get the merest of compensation. If you pay at the bottom of the market and give no other incentives to workers (benefits), then they will do the bare minimum to get that paycheck. Ask for help? Are you kidding–they don’t want to talk to another rude, demanding, self-interested customer. There’s nothing in it for them…
[/quote]You’re describing an expectations disconnect. These are not “head-of-household jobs”. Are you suggesting there is pay and benefit equality for a stock-boy when compared, for example, to a skilled machinist?
My 12 year old son can competently perform 80%+ of the tasks at any Wal-Mart retail location. With little training, I pay him $10 a week to do similar tasks in our household (taking out the trash, putting dishes on shelves, making his bed, etc.). By contrast, it would take him years to become accomplished running a lathe turning a high purity alloy.
This does not seem to be a question or issue of “pride”, rather, unjustified expectations affecting attitude.
Participant[quote=Shadowfax] There is no sense of “pride” in workers at a Walmart (that would encourage them to straighten up shelves, etc.) because they get the merest of compensation. If you pay at the bottom of the market and give no other incentives to workers (benefits), then they will do the bare minimum to get that paycheck. Ask for help? Are you kidding–they don’t want to talk to another rude, demanding, self-interested customer. There’s nothing in it for them…
[/quote]You’re describing an expectations disconnect. These are not “head-of-household jobs”. Are you suggesting there is pay and benefit equality for a stock-boy when compared, for example, to a skilled machinist?
My 12 year old son can competently perform 80%+ of the tasks at any Wal-Mart retail location. With little training, I pay him $10 a week to do similar tasks in our household (taking out the trash, putting dishes on shelves, making his bed, etc.). By contrast, it would take him years to become accomplished running a lathe turning a high purity alloy.
This does not seem to be a question or issue of “pride”, rather, unjustified expectations affecting attitude.
Participant[quote=Shadowfax] There is no sense of “pride” in workers at a Walmart (that would encourage them to straighten up shelves, etc.) because they get the merest of compensation. If you pay at the bottom of the market and give no other incentives to workers (benefits), then they will do the bare minimum to get that paycheck. Ask for help? Are you kidding–they don’t want to talk to another rude, demanding, self-interested customer. There’s nothing in it for them…
[/quote]You’re describing an expectations disconnect. These are not “head-of-household jobs”. Are you suggesting there is pay and benefit equality for a stock-boy when compared, for example, to a skilled machinist?
My 12 year old son can competently perform 80%+ of the tasks at any Wal-Mart retail location. With little training, I pay him $10 a week to do similar tasks in our household (taking out the trash, putting dishes on shelves, making his bed, etc.). By contrast, it would take him years to become accomplished running a lathe turning a high purity alloy.
This does not seem to be a question or issue of “pride”, rather, unjustified expectations affecting attitude.
Participant[quote=Shadowfax] There is no sense of “pride” in workers at a Walmart (that would encourage them to straighten up shelves, etc.) because they get the merest of compensation. If you pay at the bottom of the market and give no other incentives to workers (benefits), then they will do the bare minimum to get that paycheck. Ask for help? Are you kidding–they don’t want to talk to another rude, demanding, self-interested customer. There’s nothing in it for them…
[/quote]You’re describing an expectations disconnect. These are not “head-of-household jobs”. Are you suggesting there is pay and benefit equality for a stock-boy when compared, for example, to a skilled machinist?
My 12 year old son can competently perform 80%+ of the tasks at any Wal-Mart retail location. With little training, I pay him $10 a week to do similar tasks in our household (taking out the trash, putting dishes on shelves, making his bed, etc.). By contrast, it would take him years to become accomplished running a lathe turning a high purity alloy.
This does not seem to be a question or issue of “pride”, rather, unjustified expectations affecting attitude.
ParticipantI’ll throw this mix into the mix…
ParticipantI’ll throw this mix into the mix…
ParticipantI’ll throw this mix into the mix…
ParticipantI’ll throw this mix into the mix…
ParticipantI’ll throw this mix into the mix…
ParticipantI can’t suggest any particular bank. I can tell you that we currently use both Sovereign Bank and US Bank for our business (chemical industry). We moved our business to SD two years ago and would have continued with Sovereign, but alas, they are not located here. While I think a local banking relationship is important, we maintain a line of credit with a Sovereign Philadelphia branch. No real complaints with either, though I’d say US Bank is a tad more conservative with their revolving credit lines and they nickel and dime me a little more than Sovereign.
We have been thinking of looking at Wells Fargo because of their balance sheet strength.
ParticipantI can’t suggest any particular bank. I can tell you that we currently use both Sovereign Bank and US Bank for our business (chemical industry). We moved our business to SD two years ago and would have continued with Sovereign, but alas, they are not located here. While I think a local banking relationship is important, we maintain a line of credit with a Sovereign Philadelphia branch. No real complaints with either, though I’d say US Bank is a tad more conservative with their revolving credit lines and they nickel and dime me a little more than Sovereign.
We have been thinking of looking at Wells Fargo because of their balance sheet strength.
ParticipantI can’t suggest any particular bank. I can tell you that we currently use both Sovereign Bank and US Bank for our business (chemical industry). We moved our business to SD two years ago and would have continued with Sovereign, but alas, they are not located here. While I think a local banking relationship is important, we maintain a line of credit with a Sovereign Philadelphia branch. No real complaints with either, though I’d say US Bank is a tad more conservative with their revolving credit lines and they nickel and dime me a little more than Sovereign.
We have been thinking of looking at Wells Fargo because of their balance sheet strength.
ParticipantI can’t suggest any particular bank. I can tell you that we currently use both Sovereign Bank and US Bank for our business (chemical industry). We moved our business to SD two years ago and would have continued with Sovereign, but alas, they are not located here. While I think a local banking relationship is important, we maintain a line of credit with a Sovereign Philadelphia branch. No real complaints with either, though I’d say US Bank is a tad more conservative with their revolving credit lines and they nickel and dime me a little more than Sovereign.
We have been thinking of looking at Wells Fargo because of their balance sheet strength.
ParticipantI can’t suggest any particular bank. I can tell you that we currently use both Sovereign Bank and US Bank for our business (chemical industry). We moved our business to SD two years ago and would have continued with Sovereign, but alas, they are not located here. While I think a local banking relationship is important, we maintain a line of credit with a Sovereign Philadelphia branch. No real complaints with either, though I’d say US Bank is a tad more conservative with their revolving credit lines and they nickel and dime me a little more than Sovereign.
We have been thinking of looking at Wells Fargo because of their balance sheet strength.
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