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urbanrealtor
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Rus: I didn’t say to vote for Mitt, I said he looks like the corporate villain from any one of a number of films. Being bald, I think I mainly envy him for his hair.
Almodovar, huh? Interesting. Do you read any Marquez or Vargas Llosa?
We’re not going to go off on a MechA tear, are we?
Por la causa, por la raza, baby! Viva la revolucion![/quote]
Yours and Rus’s discussions of Revolution remind me of the whole Aureliano Buendia section of Cien Anos de Soledad.
Something about losing heart in the revolution but staying with it.
Participant[quote=Casca]
I’ve never had ass cancer you idiot. You were born of hemorrhoid cells.
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Does that mean I can call you Daddy?[quote=Casca]
“Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?”When the government does it, yes.
“Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?”
Your attempt to put me in a reductio ad absurdum box is childish.
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I was not trying to do anything. I sought to draw out your direction, and I think it is a fair question. Let me give 2 examples: the fear of manipulation in the Sirius XM merger and nature of telecommunications during the era of Ma Bell. Again, I pose the question: does this fall under your rubric of market manipulation and/or command economy?
[quote=Casca]
Of course there is a part for government in creating structure, but not in determining who should get subsidies for not planting what, or how many lesbian dwarfs you must have on your payroll. Government’s role is too great, and has been for decades. Those who can’t see this are part of the problem.
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So where do you see the appropriate limit of government control? Where does the “creation of structure” end?
[quote=Casca]“Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.”
Does she have a history degree, or an education degree?
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Both actually. Also, a master’s degree in political theory.
[quote=Casca]
Considering the vast sums expended, our public schools are a disgrace. We pay for filet mignon, and get hot dogs.
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Bearing in mind that I am a foodie that prefers hot dogs to tenderloin, I have some questions about that. What alternative models (anywhere) would you point to? What would you see as a way to improve the schools?
[quote=Casca]“Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?”
People vote for those with whom they believe they share values, thus the 92% black vote he’ll reap. Although to the dismay of MLK, most we’ll be voting based on the color of his skin, and not the content of his character. A lot more Americans will look at his foreign childhood in the Indonesian Madrassas, and conclude that he isn’t PLU. [/quote]
While I find it humorous that you would use the Southeast Asian slang acronym for gay (People Like Us), I don’t know that most spectators will see the problems with him that you see. His birth and citizenship are public record (in the US). The type of secular school he attended is common throughout southeast Asia. My brother in law (a surly New York Italian) teaches at one in Singapore. They have occasional religious classes but they are not madrasas (like in Waziristan) unless you mean in the strictest sense (madrasa just means school). Is it your assertion that his record of birth was faked? do you assert that the school (or all secular schools in southeast Asia) is/are faking there secular credentials?[quote=Casca]
I have nothing in common with the man, except that I too have spent years in the political gutter that is Chicago, and know what one finds there… raw opportunism, but that has been his trajectory since his arrival in Hawaii as a teenager, and entry into the halls of privilege.[/quote]
Do you feel that Chicago unto itself is a place that make people corrupt?
Do you feel that this has had an effect upon you? Do you feel that Chicago has made you more corrupt or do you think you have avoided this?Participant[quote=Casca]
I’ve never had ass cancer you idiot. You were born of hemorrhoid cells.
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Does that mean I can call you Daddy?[quote=Casca]
“Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?”When the government does it, yes.
“Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?”
Your attempt to put me in a reductio ad absurdum box is childish.
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I was not trying to do anything. I sought to draw out your direction, and I think it is a fair question. Let me give 2 examples: the fear of manipulation in the Sirius XM merger and nature of telecommunications during the era of Ma Bell. Again, I pose the question: does this fall under your rubric of market manipulation and/or command economy?
[quote=Casca]
Of course there is a part for government in creating structure, but not in determining who should get subsidies for not planting what, or how many lesbian dwarfs you must have on your payroll. Government’s role is too great, and has been for decades. Those who can’t see this are part of the problem.
[/quote]
So where do you see the appropriate limit of government control? Where does the “creation of structure” end?
[quote=Casca]“Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.”
Does she have a history degree, or an education degree?
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Both actually. Also, a master’s degree in political theory.
[quote=Casca]
Considering the vast sums expended, our public schools are a disgrace. We pay for filet mignon, and get hot dogs.
[/quote]
Bearing in mind that I am a foodie that prefers hot dogs to tenderloin, I have some questions about that. What alternative models (anywhere) would you point to? What would you see as a way to improve the schools?
[quote=Casca]“Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?”
People vote for those with whom they believe they share values, thus the 92% black vote he’ll reap. Although to the dismay of MLK, most we’ll be voting based on the color of his skin, and not the content of his character. A lot more Americans will look at his foreign childhood in the Indonesian Madrassas, and conclude that he isn’t PLU. [/quote]
While I find it humorous that you would use the Southeast Asian slang acronym for gay (People Like Us), I don’t know that most spectators will see the problems with him that you see. His birth and citizenship are public record (in the US). The type of secular school he attended is common throughout southeast Asia. My brother in law (a surly New York Italian) teaches at one in Singapore. They have occasional religious classes but they are not madrasas (like in Waziristan) unless you mean in the strictest sense (madrasa just means school). Is it your assertion that his record of birth was faked? do you assert that the school (or all secular schools in southeast Asia) is/are faking there secular credentials?[quote=Casca]
I have nothing in common with the man, except that I too have spent years in the political gutter that is Chicago, and know what one finds there… raw opportunism, but that has been his trajectory since his arrival in Hawaii as a teenager, and entry into the halls of privilege.[/quote]
Do you feel that Chicago unto itself is a place that make people corrupt?
Do you feel that this has had an effect upon you? Do you feel that Chicago has made you more corrupt or do you think you have avoided this?Participant[quote=Casca]
I’ve never had ass cancer you idiot. You were born of hemorrhoid cells.
[/quote]
Does that mean I can call you Daddy?[quote=Casca]
“Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?”When the government does it, yes.
“Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?”
Your attempt to put me in a reductio ad absurdum box is childish.
[/quote]
I was not trying to do anything. I sought to draw out your direction, and I think it is a fair question. Let me give 2 examples: the fear of manipulation in the Sirius XM merger and nature of telecommunications during the era of Ma Bell. Again, I pose the question: does this fall under your rubric of market manipulation and/or command economy?
[quote=Casca]
Of course there is a part for government in creating structure, but not in determining who should get subsidies for not planting what, or how many lesbian dwarfs you must have on your payroll. Government’s role is too great, and has been for decades. Those who can’t see this are part of the problem.
[/quote]
So where do you see the appropriate limit of government control? Where does the “creation of structure” end?
[quote=Casca]“Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.”
Does she have a history degree, or an education degree?
[/quote]
Both actually. Also, a master’s degree in political theory.
[quote=Casca]
Considering the vast sums expended, our public schools are a disgrace. We pay for filet mignon, and get hot dogs.
[/quote]
Bearing in mind that I am a foodie that prefers hot dogs to tenderloin, I have some questions about that. What alternative models (anywhere) would you point to? What would you see as a way to improve the schools?
[quote=Casca]“Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?”
People vote for those with whom they believe they share values, thus the 92% black vote he’ll reap. Although to the dismay of MLK, most we’ll be voting based on the color of his skin, and not the content of his character. A lot more Americans will look at his foreign childhood in the Indonesian Madrassas, and conclude that he isn’t PLU. [/quote]
While I find it humorous that you would use the Southeast Asian slang acronym for gay (People Like Us), I don’t know that most spectators will see the problems with him that you see. His birth and citizenship are public record (in the US). The type of secular school he attended is common throughout southeast Asia. My brother in law (a surly New York Italian) teaches at one in Singapore. They have occasional religious classes but they are not madrasas (like in Waziristan) unless you mean in the strictest sense (madrasa just means school). Is it your assertion that his record of birth was faked? do you assert that the school (or all secular schools in southeast Asia) is/are faking there secular credentials?[quote=Casca]
I have nothing in common with the man, except that I too have spent years in the political gutter that is Chicago, and know what one finds there… raw opportunism, but that has been his trajectory since his arrival in Hawaii as a teenager, and entry into the halls of privilege.[/quote]
Do you feel that Chicago unto itself is a place that make people corrupt?
Do you feel that this has had an effect upon you? Do you feel that Chicago has made you more corrupt or do you think you have avoided this?Participant[quote=Casca]
I’ve never had ass cancer you idiot. You were born of hemorrhoid cells.
[/quote]
Does that mean I can call you Daddy?[quote=Casca]
“Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?”When the government does it, yes.
“Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?”
Your attempt to put me in a reductio ad absurdum box is childish.
[/quote]
I was not trying to do anything. I sought to draw out your direction, and I think it is a fair question. Let me give 2 examples: the fear of manipulation in the Sirius XM merger and nature of telecommunications during the era of Ma Bell. Again, I pose the question: does this fall under your rubric of market manipulation and/or command economy?
[quote=Casca]
Of course there is a part for government in creating structure, but not in determining who should get subsidies for not planting what, or how many lesbian dwarfs you must have on your payroll. Government’s role is too great, and has been for decades. Those who can’t see this are part of the problem.
[/quote]
So where do you see the appropriate limit of government control? Where does the “creation of structure” end?
[quote=Casca]“Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.”
Does she have a history degree, or an education degree?
[/quote]
Both actually. Also, a master’s degree in political theory.
[quote=Casca]
Considering the vast sums expended, our public schools are a disgrace. We pay for filet mignon, and get hot dogs.
[/quote]
Bearing in mind that I am a foodie that prefers hot dogs to tenderloin, I have some questions about that. What alternative models (anywhere) would you point to? What would you see as a way to improve the schools?
[quote=Casca]“Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?”
People vote for those with whom they believe they share values, thus the 92% black vote he’ll reap. Although to the dismay of MLK, most we’ll be voting based on the color of his skin, and not the content of his character. A lot more Americans will look at his foreign childhood in the Indonesian Madrassas, and conclude that he isn’t PLU. [/quote]
While I find it humorous that you would use the Southeast Asian slang acronym for gay (People Like Us), I don’t know that most spectators will see the problems with him that you see. His birth and citizenship are public record (in the US). The type of secular school he attended is common throughout southeast Asia. My brother in law (a surly New York Italian) teaches at one in Singapore. They have occasional religious classes but they are not madrasas (like in Waziristan) unless you mean in the strictest sense (madrasa just means school). Is it your assertion that his record of birth was faked? do you assert that the school (or all secular schools in southeast Asia) is/are faking there secular credentials?[quote=Casca]
I have nothing in common with the man, except that I too have spent years in the political gutter that is Chicago, and know what one finds there… raw opportunism, but that has been his trajectory since his arrival in Hawaii as a teenager, and entry into the halls of privilege.[/quote]
Do you feel that Chicago unto itself is a place that make people corrupt?
Do you feel that this has had an effect upon you? Do you feel that Chicago has made you more corrupt or do you think you have avoided this?Participant[quote=Casca]
I’ve never had ass cancer you idiot. You were born of hemorrhoid cells.
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Does that mean I can call you Daddy?[quote=Casca]
“Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?”When the government does it, yes.
“Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?”
Your attempt to put me in a reductio ad absurdum box is childish.
[/quote]
I was not trying to do anything. I sought to draw out your direction, and I think it is a fair question. Let me give 2 examples: the fear of manipulation in the Sirius XM merger and nature of telecommunications during the era of Ma Bell. Again, I pose the question: does this fall under your rubric of market manipulation and/or command economy?
[quote=Casca]
Of course there is a part for government in creating structure, but not in determining who should get subsidies for not planting what, or how many lesbian dwarfs you must have on your payroll. Government’s role is too great, and has been for decades. Those who can’t see this are part of the problem.
[/quote]
So where do you see the appropriate limit of government control? Where does the “creation of structure” end?
[quote=Casca]“Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.”
Does she have a history degree, or an education degree?
[/quote]
Both actually. Also, a master’s degree in political theory.
[quote=Casca]
Considering the vast sums expended, our public schools are a disgrace. We pay for filet mignon, and get hot dogs.
[/quote]
Bearing in mind that I am a foodie that prefers hot dogs to tenderloin, I have some questions about that. What alternative models (anywhere) would you point to? What would you see as a way to improve the schools?
[quote=Casca]“Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?”
People vote for those with whom they believe they share values, thus the 92% black vote he’ll reap. Although to the dismay of MLK, most we’ll be voting based on the color of his skin, and not the content of his character. A lot more Americans will look at his foreign childhood in the Indonesian Madrassas, and conclude that he isn’t PLU. [/quote]
While I find it humorous that you would use the Southeast Asian slang acronym for gay (People Like Us), I don’t know that most spectators will see the problems with him that you see. His birth and citizenship are public record (in the US). The type of secular school he attended is common throughout southeast Asia. My brother in law (a surly New York Italian) teaches at one in Singapore. They have occasional religious classes but they are not madrasas (like in Waziristan) unless you mean in the strictest sense (madrasa just means school). Is it your assertion that his record of birth was faked? do you assert that the school (or all secular schools in southeast Asia) is/are faking there secular credentials?[quote=Casca]
I have nothing in common with the man, except that I too have spent years in the political gutter that is Chicago, and know what one finds there… raw opportunism, but that has been his trajectory since his arrival in Hawaii as a teenager, and entry into the halls of privilege.[/quote]
Do you feel that Chicago unto itself is a place that make people corrupt?
Do you feel that this has had an effect upon you? Do you feel that Chicago has made you more corrupt or do you think you have avoided this?ParticipantThe sheer poetic irony of your butt cancer aside, I do have a few questions based on your post.
Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?
Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?
On that topic, do you consider any redistribution of wealth to be equivalent to systems like communism? EG: Are income taxes or food stamps the same as, say, government as the only employer?
Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.
Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?
ParticipantThe sheer poetic irony of your butt cancer aside, I do have a few questions based on your post.
Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?
Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?
On that topic, do you consider any redistribution of wealth to be equivalent to systems like communism? EG: Are income taxes or food stamps the same as, say, government as the only employer?
Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.
Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?
ParticipantThe sheer poetic irony of your butt cancer aside, I do have a few questions based on your post.
Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?
Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?
On that topic, do you consider any redistribution of wealth to be equivalent to systems like communism? EG: Are income taxes or food stamps the same as, say, government as the only employer?
Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.
Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?
ParticipantThe sheer poetic irony of your butt cancer aside, I do have a few questions based on your post.
Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?
Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?
On that topic, do you consider any redistribution of wealth to be equivalent to systems like communism? EG: Are income taxes or food stamps the same as, say, government as the only employer?
Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.
Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?
ParticipantThe sheer poetic irony of your butt cancer aside, I do have a few questions based on your post.
Do you really think that any manipulation of the market is synonymous with a command economy?
Does that include when private parties manipulate it or just when government does?
On that topic, do you consider any redistribution of wealth to be equivalent to systems like communism? EG: Are income taxes or food stamps the same as, say, government as the only employer?
Do you really think that public schools do not teach the history or traditions of the US? My wife who teaches US history to (predominantly immigrant) students would perhaps disagree. Again, its a question.
Is it your contention that his mother’s perceived lack of patriotism should disqualify him from running? Is it your contention that his foreign schooling should disqualify him from running?
Participant[quote=EconProf]Go house-hunting and find a house.
Take 1% of its value.
Add that to the planned monthly cost of ownership.PS: 1% is conservative. 1 1/2 percent more likely, 2% within the realm of possibility.[/quote]
Econ prof you say this on multiple threads.
I don’t think that it is truly applicable.The difference in depreciation varies wildly from one micromarket to the next.
Again, you will see a stronger depreciation in certain areas (eg: Chula Vista) which in many cases means you could get a place now (or later) that would carry with little down.
This headline (the 1%) would work if we were dealing with a perfect market (interchangeable goods and complete information) but we are not.
We are dealing with a market that has dissimilar commodities, multiple non- or semi- comparable market sites, and wildly inconsistant levels of information. I don’t mean to get all John Nash on you but mapping this in Game Theory would look like a spiderweb.
I stand by what I said before. Market and econ fundamentals really are what needs to guide personal action. When or if you buy, make sure the payment is reasonable and that you are not spending wildly more than what market rent would be (in case you have to rent it). And make sure you are buying something you think you will enjoy for a few years.
Again, as prices drop further, a greater portion of them will be in less desirable areas. I would question the expertise of anyone saying to pass up a good deal in OB now for a great deal in Mira Mesa in a year.
Timing the downturn is about as advisable as timing the boom. That effort did not work out so well.
Participant[quote=EconProf]Go house-hunting and find a house.
Take 1% of its value.
Add that to the planned monthly cost of ownership.PS: 1% is conservative. 1 1/2 percent more likely, 2% within the realm of possibility.[/quote]
Econ prof you say this on multiple threads.
I don’t think that it is truly applicable.The difference in depreciation varies wildly from one micromarket to the next.
Again, you will see a stronger depreciation in certain areas (eg: Chula Vista) which in many cases means you could get a place now (or later) that would carry with little down.
This headline (the 1%) would work if we were dealing with a perfect market (interchangeable goods and complete information) but we are not.
We are dealing with a market that has dissimilar commodities, multiple non- or semi- comparable market sites, and wildly inconsistant levels of information. I don’t mean to get all John Nash on you but mapping this in Game Theory would look like a spiderweb.
I stand by what I said before. Market and econ fundamentals really are what needs to guide personal action. When or if you buy, make sure the payment is reasonable and that you are not spending wildly more than what market rent would be (in case you have to rent it). And make sure you are buying something you think you will enjoy for a few years.
Again, as prices drop further, a greater portion of them will be in less desirable areas. I would question the expertise of anyone saying to pass up a good deal in OB now for a great deal in Mira Mesa in a year.
Timing the downturn is about as advisable as timing the boom. That effort did not work out so well.
Participant[quote=EconProf]Go house-hunting and find a house.
Take 1% of its value.
Add that to the planned monthly cost of ownership.PS: 1% is conservative. 1 1/2 percent more likely, 2% within the realm of possibility.[/quote]
Econ prof you say this on multiple threads.
I don’t think that it is truly applicable.The difference in depreciation varies wildly from one micromarket to the next.
Again, you will see a stronger depreciation in certain areas (eg: Chula Vista) which in many cases means you could get a place now (or later) that would carry with little down.
This headline (the 1%) would work if we were dealing with a perfect market (interchangeable goods and complete information) but we are not.
We are dealing with a market that has dissimilar commodities, multiple non- or semi- comparable market sites, and wildly inconsistant levels of information. I don’t mean to get all John Nash on you but mapping this in Game Theory would look like a spiderweb.
I stand by what I said before. Market and econ fundamentals really are what needs to guide personal action. When or if you buy, make sure the payment is reasonable and that you are not spending wildly more than what market rent would be (in case you have to rent it). And make sure you are buying something you think you will enjoy for a few years.
Again, as prices drop further, a greater portion of them will be in less desirable areas. I would question the expertise of anyone saying to pass up a good deal in OB now for a great deal in Mira Mesa in a year.
Timing the downturn is about as advisable as timing the boom. That effort did not work out so well.
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