[urbanrealtor]

[quote=CDMA ENG]Legally they have to re-key the home so I do not see how this is revelant.

I think this is the landlord testing your resolve over his BS.

Take him to court!

CE[/quote]

I am not aware of a statute requiring a landlord to change the locks.

I could be wrong (as a property manager, I DO change the locks) so tell me if you can point to the law on that.

The overall cost is not way out of line with market costs but the house is no less secure than if you had returned the key.

You could have made 20 copies and handed them out to the local homeless (as one of my neighbors did during foreclosure) but just not having one of the copies does not equate to needing to change the locks.

You have a right to see the bill for the lock change.

In summary:

-The charge as required for losing a key copy is not reasonable.
-The $200 cost is about right for re-key depending on the situation (even if the charge is bs).
-You have a right to see the actual invoice for the lock smith.
-You owe it to yourself to small claim this crappy landlord. If you start with a $7500 claim, that may make her ready to abandon the charge. Just a thought.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=CDMA ENG]Legally they have to re-key the home so I do not see how this is revelant.

I think this is the landlord testing your resolve over his BS.

Take him to court!

CE[/quote]

I am not aware of a statute requiring a landlord to change the locks.

I could be wrong (as a property manager, I DO change the locks) so tell me if you can point to the law on that.

The overall cost is not way out of line with market costs but the house is no less secure than if you had returned the key.

You could have made 20 copies and handed them out to the local homeless (as one of my neighbors did during foreclosure) but just not having one of the copies does not equate to needing to change the locks.

You have a right to see the bill for the lock change.

In summary:

-The charge as required for losing a key copy is not reasonable.
-The $200 cost is about right for re-key depending on the situation (even if the charge is bs).
-You have a right to see the actual invoice for the lock smith.
-You owe it to yourself to small claim this crappy landlord. If you start with a $7500 claim, that may make her ready to abandon the charge. Just a thought.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]I use my broker’s own site since Redfin is not available, and Trulia is a little shaky. We put in a formal back up offer, which was apparently ‘verbally’ presented to the owner, and immediately rejected out of hand. Both the other buyer’s broker and listing agent work out of the same office, and strangely after all the fuss I made, the property still remains pending continue to show. I suppose I could insist that the written offer is presented to the owner and ask for written acknowledgement?

My broker has checked the listing history and can’t find any evidence that it was removed. We’ve contacted the local A of R to see it there are glitches or loopholes in the system. Everyone wants me to think I’m senile, but it is such a tiny area of some 20-30 properties, I pretty much know everyone my heart.[/quote]

One cute trick I cam across here in Hillcrest was an agent who would change his listings to another address when they were about to go expired. He specialized in the Uptown complex and his listings would all turn into mobile homes the day before expiration.

Nice.

edit:
The reason for doing this is so that nobody would see that his listings in the complex did not sell.
Sneaky.
I reported him.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]I use my broker’s own site since Redfin is not available, and Trulia is a little shaky. We put in a formal back up offer, which was apparently ‘verbally’ presented to the owner, and immediately rejected out of hand. Both the other buyer’s broker and listing agent work out of the same office, and strangely after all the fuss I made, the property still remains pending continue to show. I suppose I could insist that the written offer is presented to the owner and ask for written acknowledgement?

My broker has checked the listing history and can’t find any evidence that it was removed. We’ve contacted the local A of R to see it there are glitches or loopholes in the system. Everyone wants me to think I’m senile, but it is such a tiny area of some 20-30 properties, I pretty much know everyone my heart.[/quote]

One cute trick I cam across here in Hillcrest was an agent who would change his listings to another address when they were about to go expired. He specialized in the Uptown complex and his listings would all turn into mobile homes the day before expiration.

Nice.

edit:
The reason for doing this is so that nobody would see that his listings in the complex did not sell.
Sneaky.
I reported him.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]I use my broker’s own site since Redfin is not available, and Trulia is a little shaky. We put in a formal back up offer, which was apparently ‘verbally’ presented to the owner, and immediately rejected out of hand. Both the other buyer’s broker and listing agent work out of the same office, and strangely after all the fuss I made, the property still remains pending continue to show. I suppose I could insist that the written offer is presented to the owner and ask for written acknowledgement?

My broker has checked the listing history and can’t find any evidence that it was removed. We’ve contacted the local A of R to see it there are glitches or loopholes in the system. Everyone wants me to think I’m senile, but it is such a tiny area of some 20-30 properties, I pretty much know everyone my heart.[/quote]

One cute trick I cam across here in Hillcrest was an agent who would change his listings to another address when they were about to go expired. He specialized in the Uptown complex and his listings would all turn into mobile homes the day before expiration.

Nice.

edit:
The reason for doing this is so that nobody would see that his listings in the complex did not sell.
Sneaky.
I reported him.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]I use my broker’s own site since Redfin is not available, and Trulia is a little shaky. We put in a formal back up offer, which was apparently ‘verbally’ presented to the owner, and immediately rejected out of hand. Both the other buyer’s broker and listing agent work out of the same office, and strangely after all the fuss I made, the property still remains pending continue to show. I suppose I could insist that the written offer is presented to the owner and ask for written acknowledgement?

My broker has checked the listing history and can’t find any evidence that it was removed. We’ve contacted the local A of R to see it there are glitches or loopholes in the system. Everyone wants me to think I’m senile, but it is such a tiny area of some 20-30 properties, I pretty much know everyone my heart.[/quote]

One cute trick I cam across here in Hillcrest was an agent who would change his listings to another address when they were about to go expired. He specialized in the Uptown complex and his listings would all turn into mobile homes the day before expiration.

Nice.

edit:
The reason for doing this is so that nobody would see that his listings in the complex did not sell.
Sneaky.
I reported him.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]I use my broker’s own site since Redfin is not available, and Trulia is a little shaky. We put in a formal back up offer, which was apparently ‘verbally’ presented to the owner, and immediately rejected out of hand. Both the other buyer’s broker and listing agent work out of the same office, and strangely after all the fuss I made, the property still remains pending continue to show. I suppose I could insist that the written offer is presented to the owner and ask for written acknowledgement?

My broker has checked the listing history and can’t find any evidence that it was removed. We’ve contacted the local A of R to see it there are glitches or loopholes in the system. Everyone wants me to think I’m senile, but it is such a tiny area of some 20-30 properties, I pretty much know everyone my heart.[/quote]

One cute trick I cam across here in Hillcrest was an agent who would change his listings to another address when they were about to go expired. He specialized in the Uptown complex and his listings would all turn into mobile homes the day before expiration.

Nice.

edit:
The reason for doing this is so that nobody would see that his listings in the complex did not sell.
Sneaky.
I reported him.

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]Sure, but if the listing says ‘pending continue to show’, then disappears, then comes back ‘pending continue to show’ just when the home is about to close …that’s normal?[/quote]
Couple of things:
-Most pendings (at least in CA) do not include instructions to keep showing.
-Broker sites with MLS feeds ARE free sites (Redfin is a broker site with a feed…as is SDLookup) and do not get full MLS data (regardless of what those brokers tell you)
-Some agents disable public site access when they want calls and door knocks to stop.
-If the listing came back as a “please show” prior to close, that suggests to me that the escrow is shaky (though the agent will probably deny that).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]Sure, but if the listing says ‘pending continue to show’, then disappears, then comes back ‘pending continue to show’ just when the home is about to close …that’s normal?[/quote]
Couple of things:
-Most pendings (at least in CA) do not include instructions to keep showing.
-Broker sites with MLS feeds ARE free sites (Redfin is a broker site with a feed…as is SDLookup) and do not get full MLS data (regardless of what those brokers tell you)
-Some agents disable public site access when they want calls and door knocks to stop.
-If the listing came back as a “please show” prior to close, that suggests to me that the escrow is shaky (though the agent will probably deny that).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]Sure, but if the listing says ‘pending continue to show’, then disappears, then comes back ‘pending continue to show’ just when the home is about to close …that’s normal?[/quote]
Couple of things:
-Most pendings (at least in CA) do not include instructions to keep showing.
-Broker sites with MLS feeds ARE free sites (Redfin is a broker site with a feed…as is SDLookup) and do not get full MLS data (regardless of what those brokers tell you)
-Some agents disable public site access when they want calls and door knocks to stop.
-If the listing came back as a “please show” prior to close, that suggests to me that the escrow is shaky (though the agent will probably deny that).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]Sure, but if the listing says ‘pending continue to show’, then disappears, then comes back ‘pending continue to show’ just when the home is about to close …that’s normal?[/quote]
Couple of things:
-Most pendings (at least in CA) do not include instructions to keep showing.
-Broker sites with MLS feeds ARE free sites (Redfin is a broker site with a feed…as is SDLookup) and do not get full MLS data (regardless of what those brokers tell you)
-Some agents disable public site access when they want calls and door knocks to stop.
-If the listing came back as a “please show” prior to close, that suggests to me that the escrow is shaky (though the agent will probably deny that).

[urbanrealtor]

[quote=Jazzman]Sure, but if the listing says ‘pending continue to show’, then disappears, then comes back ‘pending continue to show’ just when the home is about to close …that’s normal?[/quote]
Couple of things:
-Most pendings (at least in CA) do not include instructions to keep showing.
-Broker sites with MLS feeds ARE free sites (Redfin is a broker site with a feed…as is SDLookup) and do not get full MLS data (regardless of what those brokers tell you)
-Some agents disable public site access when they want calls and door knocks to stop.
-If the listing came back as a “please show” prior to close, that suggests to me that the escrow is shaky (though the agent will probably deny that).

[urbanrealtor]

If it were my listing, you would not have gotten this far without doing an inspection (and removing inspection contingencies).
The seller and his agent likely did a lot of work for no reason if the property has significant damage or issues.
If you can document those issues (with an inspection report and multiple bids) there is some possibility that the short sale lien holder will allow a price reduction.
It is very unlikely that anyone will either fix it or give you a credit.
You should get the info from the inspection report and then contact appropriate contractors to bid before approaching them about cost reduction.

Sometimes if it is a minor repair (eg: carpet cleaning or painting) the agents will pay for it.

However, the nature of a short sale is that there really is no extra money anywhere.

[urbanrealtor]

If it were my listing, you would not have gotten this far without doing an inspection (and removing inspection contingencies).
The seller and his agent likely did a lot of work for no reason if the property has significant damage or issues.
If you can document those issues (with an inspection report and multiple bids) there is some possibility that the short sale lien holder will allow a price reduction.
It is very unlikely that anyone will either fix it or give you a credit.
You should get the info from the inspection report and then contact appropriate contractors to bid before approaching them about cost reduction.

Sometimes if it is a minor repair (eg: carpet cleaning or painting) the agents will pay for it.

However, the nature of a short sale is that there really is no extra money anywhere.

[urbanrealtor]

If it were my listing, you would not have gotten this far without doing an inspection (and removing inspection contingencies).
The seller and his agent likely did a lot of work for no reason if the property has significant damage or issues.
If you can document those issues (with an inspection report and multiple bids) there is some possibility that the short sale lien holder will allow a price reduction.
It is very unlikely that anyone will either fix it or give you a credit.
You should get the info from the inspection report and then contact appropriate contractors to bid before approaching them about cost reduction.

Sometimes if it is a minor repair (eg: carpet cleaning or painting) the agents will pay for it.

However, the nature of a short sale is that there really is no extra money anywhere.

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