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November 4, 2007 at 9:57 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95748November 4, 2007 at 9:57 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95755
ucodegen
ParticipantI wish somebody had a copy of one of these programs so the know it all (ucodegen) could do a sound analysis.
Me too.. but I am not going to front the money because it fails my basic sniff test.. and that of several other people who posted… and it fails Suzi Orman’s sniff test too…
November 4, 2007 at 9:57 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95763ucodegen
ParticipantI wish somebody had a copy of one of these programs so the know it all (ucodegen) could do a sound analysis.
Me too.. but I am not going to front the money because it fails my basic sniff test.. and that of several other people who posted… and it fails Suzi Orman’s sniff test too…
November 4, 2007 at 9:52 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95677ucodegen
Participant@Jumby
I don’t have the program. You are so stuck in the rut of thinking I’m a sales guy for this. LOL, If I was, Why would I want to argue with you? The know it all.
I am not the only one who was calling it a sales job. Your refusal to discuss the approach and how it worked, vs how it was different than standard prepay, your touting their ‘brochures’, refusal to bring data all flagged it as sales to more people than just I.In God We Trust, for everything else, bring data.
I just want the community’s 2 cents.
And you got it in spades.. yet you kept re-presenting their pre-cooked statements and rebuttals… and did not present data, nor did you debate the fundamentals of the program nor the basic weaknesses of its precepts. What also probably got many people was the presented concept that you could magically make the mortgage disappear by taking on, of all things, another (higher rate) loan! For things like that, you bring numbers. Salesmen take the approach of repeating precooked responses ad-nauseum, avoiding debate on the fundamentals of the issue. If you are not a salesperson, then you were definitely sold on the product.If you check back on the historical comments, you will find that I took a balanced approach. I only resorted to stronger statements when precooked responses were thrown back that did not address the statements that were made.
November 4, 2007 at 9:52 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95736ucodegen
Participant@Jumby
I don’t have the program. You are so stuck in the rut of thinking I’m a sales guy for this. LOL, If I was, Why would I want to argue with you? The know it all.
I am not the only one who was calling it a sales job. Your refusal to discuss the approach and how it worked, vs how it was different than standard prepay, your touting their ‘brochures’, refusal to bring data all flagged it as sales to more people than just I.In God We Trust, for everything else, bring data.
I just want the community’s 2 cents.
And you got it in spades.. yet you kept re-presenting their pre-cooked statements and rebuttals… and did not present data, nor did you debate the fundamentals of the program nor the basic weaknesses of its precepts. What also probably got many people was the presented concept that you could magically make the mortgage disappear by taking on, of all things, another (higher rate) loan! For things like that, you bring numbers. Salesmen take the approach of repeating precooked responses ad-nauseum, avoiding debate on the fundamentals of the issue. If you are not a salesperson, then you were definitely sold on the product.If you check back on the historical comments, you will find that I took a balanced approach. I only resorted to stronger statements when precooked responses were thrown back that did not address the statements that were made.
November 4, 2007 at 9:52 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95742ucodegen
Participant@Jumby
I don’t have the program. You are so stuck in the rut of thinking I’m a sales guy for this. LOL, If I was, Why would I want to argue with you? The know it all.
I am not the only one who was calling it a sales job. Your refusal to discuss the approach and how it worked, vs how it was different than standard prepay, your touting their ‘brochures’, refusal to bring data all flagged it as sales to more people than just I.In God We Trust, for everything else, bring data.
I just want the community’s 2 cents.
And you got it in spades.. yet you kept re-presenting their pre-cooked statements and rebuttals… and did not present data, nor did you debate the fundamentals of the program nor the basic weaknesses of its precepts. What also probably got many people was the presented concept that you could magically make the mortgage disappear by taking on, of all things, another (higher rate) loan! For things like that, you bring numbers. Salesmen take the approach of repeating precooked responses ad-nauseum, avoiding debate on the fundamentals of the issue. If you are not a salesperson, then you were definitely sold on the product.If you check back on the historical comments, you will find that I took a balanced approach. I only resorted to stronger statements when precooked responses were thrown back that did not address the statements that were made.
November 4, 2007 at 9:52 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95750ucodegen
Participant@Jumby
I don’t have the program. You are so stuck in the rut of thinking I’m a sales guy for this. LOL, If I was, Why would I want to argue with you? The know it all.
I am not the only one who was calling it a sales job. Your refusal to discuss the approach and how it worked, vs how it was different than standard prepay, your touting their ‘brochures’, refusal to bring data all flagged it as sales to more people than just I.In God We Trust, for everything else, bring data.
I just want the community’s 2 cents.
And you got it in spades.. yet you kept re-presenting their pre-cooked statements and rebuttals… and did not present data, nor did you debate the fundamentals of the program nor the basic weaknesses of its precepts. What also probably got many people was the presented concept that you could magically make the mortgage disappear by taking on, of all things, another (higher rate) loan! For things like that, you bring numbers. Salesmen take the approach of repeating precooked responses ad-nauseum, avoiding debate on the fundamentals of the issue. If you are not a salesperson, then you were definitely sold on the product.If you check back on the historical comments, you will find that I took a balanced approach. I only resorted to stronger statements when precooked responses were thrown back that did not address the statements that were made.
November 4, 2007 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95661ucodegen
ParticipantThat mag in the mail yesterday, her explanation seemed very surface level so I started reading about it tonight and thought about posting it on here
It is more detail than what the ‘program’ reveals..and I am still awaiting data.
November 4, 2007 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95720ucodegen
ParticipantThat mag in the mail yesterday, her explanation seemed very surface level so I started reading about it tonight and thought about posting it on here
It is more detail than what the ‘program’ reveals..and I am still awaiting data.
November 4, 2007 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95726ucodegen
ParticipantThat mag in the mail yesterday, her explanation seemed very surface level so I started reading about it tonight and thought about posting it on here
It is more detail than what the ‘program’ reveals..and I am still awaiting data.
November 4, 2007 at 9:40 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95735ucodegen
ParticipantThat mag in the mail yesterday, her explanation seemed very surface level so I started reading about it tonight and thought about posting it on here
It is more detail than what the ‘program’ reveals..and I am still awaiting data.
November 4, 2007 at 9:37 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95657ucodegen
ParticipantI just was thumbing through the latest issue of the Costco Connection magazine..errr. infomercial while sitting on my throne in the morning.
Does it help??
RE: Good Suzi link on the subject too!! Can we get her to talk(write) to Jumby on this??
November 4, 2007 at 9:37 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95716ucodegen
ParticipantI just was thumbing through the latest issue of the Costco Connection magazine..errr. infomercial while sitting on my throne in the morning.
Does it help??
RE: Good Suzi link on the subject too!! Can we get her to talk(write) to Jumby on this??
November 4, 2007 at 9:37 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95723ucodegen
ParticipantI just was thumbing through the latest issue of the Costco Connection magazine..errr. infomercial while sitting on my throne in the morning.
Does it help??
RE: Good Suzi link on the subject too!! Can we get her to talk(write) to Jumby on this??
November 4, 2007 at 9:37 PM in reply to: Payoff Mortgage in 1/3 the time without doing anything different? #95731ucodegen
ParticipantI just was thumbing through the latest issue of the Costco Connection magazine..errr. infomercial while sitting on my throne in the morning.
Does it help??
RE: Good Suzi link on the subject too!! Can we get her to talk(write) to Jumby on this??
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