Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
ucodegen
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano][quote=spdrun] one doesn’t need to be connected to the Intarwebz 24/7/365[/quote]
That, sir, is where we disagree![/quote]
I don’t know if I agree.. maybe you are mixing want with need. A person does not die if they are not connected to the ‘Intarwebz’ – therefore no real need, however if someone suddenly stops – they may get withdraw systems similar to someone addicted on crack… ☺Besides, disconnecting can clear the mind, help you find meaning in life, find time you didn’t know you had, connect with family…
Participant[quote=spdrun] Only things are missing are calendar and Exchange support, but I don’t use Exchange (hosted, cloud, or local) so I’m not missing much.[/quote]I have one instance of Thunderbird connected to an exchange server (both Office365 cloud based and company server based). There is a calendaring function built in through a plugin (I think it is called Lightning). I don’t have it ‘integrated’ with the other servers though. While there is standardization on Email servers, there isn’t much on Calendars. Trying to sync with Yahoo’s calendar is a go-oneway only proposition. Thunderbird also has issues with how Yahoo handles Junk mail (I dumped the protocol exchange and it is Yahoo’s fault).
I am at version 45.1 and I think I am 2 minor revs behind the current.
ParticipantWindows 10 home – you just named the #1 problem there. Microsoft is even blocking installation of open source software if it does not comply with Microsoft guidelines when running family safety.. this includes Firefox, Chrome. It ignores the obvious elephant being that filtering does not occur in the browser, it occurs on the connection, ie kernel – but Microsoft wants to push ‘Edge’.
That said, I use Thunderbird. I’ve connected it to Yahoo, Gmail, and Corporate networks. It does use an encrypted transfer from the mail server, which not all Mail browsers use. I do think that Thunderbird needs to look at how it does its software update though. Best method right now is manual, though it does have an automated one.
NOTE: I have not run it on Windows 10 home though. I have it running on Windows 7, 8, 8.1.
More on why Microsoft’s approach is probably doomed to failure (with respect to kid filtering):
Participant[quote=flu]
Lol, *thread jack*.CARB legal supercharger on CARB legal piggyback ECU on a stripped interior and a heavy right foot. I think if I tried, I could probably get 25mpg. But currently, my SUV gets better gas mileage. Lol[/quote]
The supercharger and lightened car should offset each other. Do you know what your current LTFT (Long Term Fuel Trim) is that you are running when @ highway speeds?I wonder if the piggyback ECU is pulling too much ignition timing when under light loads. Does your engine have variable valve timing?
Participant[quote=no_such_reality]You already have a quality filter and quality vote.
It’s your My Ignore List
I suggest people use it It’s a very good one on this software IMO which shows a post occurred but reduces it to a single line with easy view option[/quote]
I *upvote* this one.I usually don’t use ignore lists unless the poster gets really bad. I usually look at who is posting and if it is one of the *, and it looks like it is going on a tangent, I skip the post and move on.
If the trolls and their feeders are having a love-hate fest on the thread, there are plenty of other threads – or if the original thread is something of interest, I ignore the love-hate fest and go with the content, and post against the content ignoring what the trolls and their feeders are doing.
If the troll-feeder clutter is a problem, what about having a way for individual accounts to reduce a specific post to a ‘one-line’ for just their view? .. kind of a ‘iconify post’ button. This would need to be tracked per account, but would allow people to clean out the troll clutter per individual user preference.
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
There is an ignore option, but unfortunately the trolls still seem to be well-fed…
[/quote]
True.. but who are the people feeding the trolls? Generally the same people complaining about them. This leads me to think that the feeders are trying to use censorship as a form of bullying, which could be that the feeders are also trolling.The feeders could just ‘ignore’, which means they are getting something from feeding the trolls, trolling back the trolls, or trying to bully the trolls.
Participant[quote=njtosd]
FWIW – not that it is likely to be an issue for this website, but . . . . Rich – you might want to think about the Digital Millennium Copyright Right Act at least a little. Basically – the less a web host directly interacts in a *non-automated* way (i.e. personally deciding what or who ends up on the blog) the more likely the host is to maintain the safe harbor provisions of the DMCA if there were ever to be any copyright protected components ending up here.Not intended to be legal advice – just something to think about.[/quote]
Good point – I was not thinking along potential litigious paths, though I do think the up/down votes do work under DMCA since it is through viewer input instead of moderator input. I am just concerned which way would the ‘content and quality’ of discourse would go on an up/down vote system.Participant[quote=Hobie]
I would like a way to vote for a temp ban on members when posts turn personal or foul language. 3 strikes idea.[/quote]
Censorship… just put them on ignore. Then they just ‘talk to the hand’ or ‘spit into the wind’ or ‘yell into the canyon that has no echo’…. kind of lonely for them.Censorship creates its own set of problems.
“I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it.” – Evelyn Beatrice Hall.
link for the nit-pickers on the above quote:
I Disapprove of What You Say, But I Will Defend to the Death Your Right to Say It
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
Again I don’t understand what for-profit or mainstream media has to do with this subject. Piggington is a free discussion forum, it’s just a whole different kettle of fish.[/quote]Newsprint’s success (financial) these days is oriented around popularity, not critical content. Good critical content can be very unpopular. If your publication is not ‘popular’, you don’t get advertising revenue…
When someone’s content is rated on popularity, we risk going down the same route the results in quick sound-bites without much thought put into it. As someone else has stated, one can just filter a particular person out if they tend to produce more noise than signal.
However – these are just my opinions – can’t tell you what you must do with your website. I hope you read the full referenced posting though. I have many more on the risk that rating to popularity has on informed discussion.
I’ve seen blog sites degrade into the comment quality that yahoo has when ‘popularity’ upvote/downvote is added. Commenters spend less time on thinking about it and vote on ‘like’. Postings tend to get shorter and more inflammatory and less ‘thinking’ time is used before posting.
Right now, one needs to think things through or one will just get their arguments ‘ripped apart’. With upvote/downvote, one can write something really stupid but won’t get their position ripped apart. Just a lot of downvotes, which some people seem to like to get (any number of votes shows attention over posting something and getting zero votes either way)
[quote=Rich Toscano]My personal view is that there is a wide range in quality of postings here, and I would love to have a way to sort based on how high quality the community as a whole thinks postings are.[/quote]
You are assuming that the votes will be based uniformly on quality vs popularity. I think that is part of the mistake.Participant[quote=flu]Track rat miata cost $24 to fill up, getting 18 miles/gallon (lol)..Synthetic motor oil fell from $35 to $20 for 5 quarts.
So much for peak oil…Lol.[/quote]
A little OT.. but why are you getting such bad mileage on the Miata? Different ECU tuning? Running rich? I presume it is not road registered, or you don’t have to smog where you live?Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
I’m not really sure what mainstream media trends have to do with the piggington forums getting a comment voting system… but regardless… if we had one, you could have downvoted my comment. See how handy that is? ;-)[/quote]True.. it is easy, but that also supports my contention. A simple thumbs down instead of having to put thought into one’s response, evaluate ones position critically and to craft a hopefully cognizant reply supporting ones position of disagreement. Not that it always occurs here. It becomes a ‘popularity’ contest (kind of like how elementary school was).. which is how the main stream media seems to currently work (ie. Don Henley’s “Dirty Laundry”). Easy is not always better.
The main stream media went downhill when they became ‘for profit’. I remember something was passed a long time ago that allowed them to become ‘for profit’ vs nonprofit (not that the owners of older newsprint didn’t make a good profit – ie. Hearst). I think the switch happened around the ’70s.
A good read on the news for-profit issue – http://www.editorsweblog.org/2005/06/29/mainstream-media-vs-journalism-vs-the-internet
A few quotes:
Gordon’s theories may all seem feasible, but another article in Philadelphia’s City Paper makes some good points about the sustainability of Internet journalism: “Interactive writers can quickly become slaves to instant ratings.”
Essentially, the fact that Internet content can be posted immediately will drive journalists to begin writing for popularity, instead of the investigative journalism society needs. “AOL’s narrowcasting encourages even the most diligent reporters to become entertainers,” says the articles author.
Of course I could have just down-voted your comment.. but then that would not have given anyone ideas as to why I downvoted, and might not have resulted in people thinking about their position on the subject either. It might degrade into an angry popularity upvote-downvote competition.
Participant[quote=Rich Toscano]
When I get around to upgrading the site software, I am really hoping to put in an “upvote” capability…[/quote]Don’t know if that is a good thing or a bad thing. If you look at how the main stream media is chasing ‘popular’ thoughts vs digging for truth.. it might degrade this place to a elementary school level popularity contest – though the periodic name calling does seem drop down to elementary school mentality.Participant[quote=spdrun]Or just get a router that allows uploading an audited OS. Open source. dd-wrt or similar.
Not that what they’re describing is terribly practical outside of a lab.[/quote]
All I can say is that it does work outside of the lab environment.. so does radar. You can also send data on radar signals (by modulating the signal as if it were a standard carrier).PS: many routers can be ‘rooted’ and there are open source executables and source code available for them. The more ‘clever’ routers with electronic antenna pointing are not all represented on the open source list though. It is kind of hard to get the manufacturers to be open on their interfaces to certain parts.
ParticipantAnd the older remote doesn’t add to the landfill..
-
AuthorPosts
