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Participant[quote=harvey][quote=ucodegen]Big Big problem. The only seats on a plane with the arm that raises like that is in coach. […][/quote]
The woman claimed it happened in 1979. I don’t know what your point is describing all the airplanes that he owned. But the “big problem” with your analysis is that it doesn’t contain any information relevant to 1979 and is mostly some sort of awestruck description of Trump’s lifestyle.
You know the details of every aircraft Trump could have been on on in 1979? Riiiiiggghhhtt.. and I’m the tooth fairy.
The facts about aircraft from that era:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/10/14/did-airliners-have-movable-arm-rests/
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You missed the rest of the statements… just taking one quote out of context. You forgot not flying coach and preferring to fly alone. I checked, and the 1979 First class were swiveling and looked almost like a boardroom. Interesting thing about the picture you show, is how much smaller seats on airplanes have become.. and of course the ashtrays and no seatbelts. I don’t know where his pictures came from as well as the seat. This one is TWA, L1011 – early-mid 1970’s.[img_assist|nid=26059|title=Business class|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=460|height=460]
As for describing airplanes he owned; it is simple. If you own a commercial sized jet for personal use, you don’t fly on the airlines. Its like owning a car but taking a Taxi for most places you go or on long trips. It doesn’t work. There is a large cost in just owning such an aircraft including depreciation costs. You either use it or sell it.
As for being awestruck, NOT. I do understand personalities, and their traits. Mister gilded will not ‘stoop’ to coach. The other thing to realize, is if you have been grossly groped, you tend to remember. Traumatic events tend to solidify memories. My first car accident (other one was being hit in the rear by an under aged DUI), I remember what I was doing before, after, vehicles involved, where, what I was thinking before, other cars.. etc. I will also remember being rear ended by the DUI for quite a while. His attorney was pulling delays, hoping I would forget things – didn’t work. Not remembering what airline under such traumatic events is a problem.
NOTE: 1979 would probably not be a MD-80 which was first introduced in late 1980. DC-8 was being phased out, DC-10 was competing with L-1011 – making it likely a DC-10 or L-1011. Found many first class layouts for that year, but not like the seat you showed.
Update: I did find that weird seat – it was 1973 DC-10. This was near the end of the period that they used these seats in what was called the ‘Lounge War’. The only version of these seats I could find were on National Airlines. Remember the oil crisis in 1975? These seats were not profitable, and were almost all removed by 1975.
NOTE: I look for seats installed in aircraft, not standing by themselves.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi][quote=Blogstar]Hillary was probably one of Bill’s first creep “victims” but she has done well with it. There is a truism that somebody shows all of who they are to their dating partners within 3 months. She knew but couldn’t pass up a good ride to power. She defended Bill against his accusers , did the stand by your man thing for power. And this is with her feminist Wellesly education, what a farce.It’s Machavellian what she does. I want a female president but not her, couldn’t we have Elizabeth Warren? Not saying she is perfect but geez.[/quote]
If Hillary is that machavelian then I do want her as president. Hillary the Great will definitely make America greatest on earth. We should crown her empress.
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I would agree with you on wanting someone Machiavellian, however the problem with that personality is they want power only for themselves at any cost, and most of their energies are towards furthering their own power. It is very hard to align benefit to the person with benefit to the nation when it is a high office. There needs to be an outside force to align them, which does not exist at that level of gov.Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
Trump’s recent accusers (of him purportedly walking into a women’s locker room and “groping” his seat-mate on a plane) just came out of the blue after all these years. Where were these women when these incidences (presumably) took place? I’ve never heard of them and I have a l-o-o-ong memory.[/quote]I am going to interject a bit of a comment here – probably a little late but important.
The ‘woman on the plane’ mentioned he was like an octopus and even raised the arm between seats to get a better grope.
Big Big problem. The only seats on a plane with the arm that raises like that is in coach. First class, Business first class does not (I’ve flown in both as well as private). When has Trump ever flown coach? When has Trump even ever flown First class or Business first class? He has his own friggin airplane, which happens to be a Boeing 757. Trump also has or has had his own Yacht. If he is paying to maintain a 757, he is NOT going to wait in line etc like the coach riders. At the minimum, if he did not have his own plane – he would contract with independent business flight services like Phoenix Air, Blue Star, JetSuite.. like he did when he flew into Mexico (because the Mex drug lords threatened to blow him out of the sky) https://twitter.com/davemorgannyc/status/771079410078261248/photo/1
Trump fly coach? Riiiiiggghhhtt.. and I’m the tooth fairy.
Here are articles about his plane: (bought 2011).
https://www.aviationcv.com/aviation-blog/2016/top-10-facts-about-donald-trumps-boeing
Trump also has a Cessna 750 Citation X (business class jet). The Cessna Citation X is a long range medium size jet with rather large engines. It looks like it is capable of handling short runways. He also has 3 Sikorski S-76B helicopters. Trump has also owned a Boeing 727 in the past. He sold the 727 which was 19yrs old at the time to buy the 757.
As for the claims from the other women, I don’t know… yet. But I know for sure that the airplane episode did not occur. I don’t know if she was coached or invented it herself, but a big mistake was made assuming that he flew like the rest of us. All of these women coming out of the woodwork is suspicious, particularly when the first one makes claims that are easy to check – if one pays attention.
NOTE: He is supposedly worth $11Bil, 10% return on that is $1Bil/year – or using working hours per year of 1980, comes to just over $500,000 per hour. 2 hours waiting in line for boarding would cost $1m of time.
Participant[quote=AN]Talking about wealth gap / real wage, you’d expect the gap should be drastically decrease under Obama. http://scalar.usc.edu/works/growing-apart-a-political-history-of-american-inequality/index%5B/quote%5D
Go to the graph called “Change in Real Wages” and set the period to be 2007 to 2012….ParticipantI tend to Republican, and I have more than one feeder (Food consumption is about the same – so with two feeders, you refill half as often with twice as much). I place them out of sight of each other so that one hummingbird can’t dominate both easily. A hummingbird can only see one or the other unless they get far away (too far to see both easily).
Interesting note; it is only the males that fight over the feeders – the females don’t, though a male may chase a female away that is not ‘his’ female.
The hummingbird’s action is predicated on a perceived scarcity of a resource, which in the case of a feeder is really not scarce. No flower or bed of flowers can hold as much ‘nectar’ as a bird feeder. The perceived scarcity can be understood why you understand the birds metabolism. It is so high that they actually have to hibernate when sleeping (tupor). They eat to live, and they must eat constantly else they die. Here’s one for scaredy re:exercise.. hummingbirds can breath as fast as 250 breaths/minute and heart rate can reach 1250/min – this may even occur at ‘rest’. In ‘hibernation’ or tupor – heart rate can drop to 50/min.
Interesting anecdote: When my mother first moved to CA from back east, she was buzzed by a hummingbird and thought it was a very large bumble bee. She wanted to move back immediately because she was not going to raise kids where bees are that large.
Good video on hummingbirds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtW7Igb4TEc
ParticipantI think Spanos is so busy trying to get his finger into expensive Real Estate at everyone else’s cost, that he is forgetting one of the important parts of going to the Stadium in the first place. It is part of the whole experience for some of the attendees… Tailgating. How in the heck are they going to support tailgating at their proposed stadium? There is insufficient room for parking.
I was watching the Tennessee vs Texas A&M game. Looking at the people in the stadium, I realized that the Chargers never drew a crowd as large as that — so why do they think they are owed a brand new Stadium at this city’s cost?
Participant[quote=utcsox]I disagree. For the last year, we have seen what prominent Republicans leaders can live with. They can live with his racist views of Mexican immigrants, Muslims, and African Americans. And somehow suddenly they are all outrage by the grab me by the P**** statement? Why do these elected Republicans who kowtow to Trump deserve to hold on to their offices? If they cannot even stand against Trump, somehow we shall trust them to do the right things when they are re-elected again?[/quote]
While not justifying nor ‘endorsing’ what Trump has said, I do know that guys will sometimes be guys and make rude, stupid, sexist comments between guys. It is immature, gross and childish.What really gets me right now is the double standard being applied when it comes to Trump. Yes, what Trump did was wrong.. however the media is trying to crucify him while they were largely defending Bill Clinton during the Paula Jones/Lewinski affair. That demonstrates a rather severe hypocrisy. On Trumps side, you have crazy hair making rude comments 10 years ago, on the other side, you have a sitting president getting an intern blowjob in the oval office, lying about it and also using his office and previous office to prevent Paula Jones from getting justice for sexual harassment (note: While Trump talked about doing it – Bill actually did (effective sexual harassment) and then used his position as Gov Arkansas to prevent himself from facing justice).
ParticipantThat is correct. Depending on how large your gain was, you might need to pay an early partial payment on your taxes. You get penalized when the amount you pay at the end of the year is a significant percentage of the total taxes you will be owing for that year.
Participant[quote=afx114]
Not true. Someone in between you and a non-encrypted site can modify the code in any way they see fit, including injecting ads, or worse, malware/keyloggers/etc. Any public wifi is susceptible to this if you’re not viewing encrypted content.[/quote]Yes and no. It requires guessing the random number sequence used in TCP/IP. Some systems create a more ‘guessable’ number than others. On the other had, if it is a true man in the middle (not WiFi) then they can because they catch the packet (preventing it from going to you) then spit out the replacement – copying the sequence from the packet that they caught. Wifi – has to guess and inject sequence numbers because you will receive the valid packet and the injected packets.That said, non-encrypted on pubic WiFi – means that you are working ‘in the nude’ and all will be seen – not necessarily intercepted and re-written.
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How do you know that this or any non-SSL site hasn’t been modified between the data center and your browser? You don’t. Because it’s not encrypted.See:
- Researcher catches AT&T injecting ads on free airport Wi-Fi hotspot
- Comcast Wi-Fi serving self-promotional ads via JavaScript injection
Middlemen can’t modify encrypted content, which is why you need SSL even on “public” sites.
SSL certs are basically free now (https://letsencrypt.org/) and all technical arguments against them (take up CPU cycles, browsers don’t support them) are irrelevant on today’s hardware/browsers.
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Some computers actually have an AES capable crypto chip on the motherboard. The WiFi indicated was a true ‘man in middle’, vs a WiFi snoop. It can also be done by your ISP… or anyone else in the middle of the line.If you really need to use a public WiFi, use AddBlock.
NOTE: on a side note, I am noticing that CNN.com is using some weird tracking code that flags as cross-site-scripting… anyone know more about it (before I consider digging)?
Participant[quote=njtosd]Yes, obviously, I’ve seen movies about this. You don’t think movies are real life, though, do you? Most here seem determined that this girl or her friends had something to do with it. [/quote]
I grew up in a real nice neighborhood, and I knew about these word of mouth parties when parents are out – this was in the late 70’s.
Participant[quote=harvey]
It would take no more than two non-cop adults to clear a house full of partying teenagers. And it can be done without your kid and/or their friends ending up with a criminal record, or worse.[/quote]Not from what I have seen. Depends upon the age, and size. You are throwing 2 adults against over 100 teens. Are some of them members of the HS Football Team? Are you a parent? Are your children teenagers – particularly late teen? If you are, you would know how difficult it can be for just one parent to deal with one teen, let alone 100 operating with ‘group-think’ and diffusion of responsibility.
Remember that these ‘kids’ committed forceable entry – technically B&E, misdemeanor to felony vandalism, theft, and underage drinking.
If the individuals were under 18 at time of offense, their record gets sealed at 18. With some of them, meeting police may wake them up.
Participant[quote=njtosd]
2. Who said police were delayed or that the girls didn’t call right away? There is an ongoing problem of slow response, btw.[/quote] Where was this? In San Diego, I know how to get about 5min response on non-critical – much less if critical.Sorry, just noticed – Carmel Valley… did they go through 911? That path is slow (can be over 15 min just to get on). The technique I use is to know the dispatch numbers (programmed into phone – they are regional). When I call, I have already planned what I am going to say – the people @ dispatch are really busy and are in no mood for ‘discussions’ or extracting info from a confused person.
Soon as I get an answer:
My Name, phone number. – they don’t have access to the GPRS data that 911 has.
Location – as detailed as possible. If not sure where, but have a smart phone – get the GPS position within 4 to 5 digits past the decimal point before you call. That is accurate to within 30 feet. If you have a dumb phone and are ‘lost’ – call 911, not dispatch. They can get GPS from the GPRS data stream provided by the phone on a 911 call.
Nature of problem – Be accurate, no drama.
What I feel is needed and one sentence of why.
NOTE: I must also repeat – when talking to dispatch – No Drama. They don’t have time for it.Sometimes it ends there, sometimes they have additional questions… but the whole conversation is very short. I think the longest was just over 1 minute. I think I have had to do this about 3 or 4 times. Shortest response near Mira Mesa was about 3 min, longest was just over 10 (Officer got a little lost).
I know that you are ‘supposed’ to use 911 for emergencies instead of Dispatch – however, I have found Dispatch to be much quicker, and they can cross call to Fire and Ambulance. Just remember – you are talking to a Police Officer, not a Social Worker. No Drama, No Exaggerations, Nothing But the Facts(Dragnet).
Participant[quote=phaster]
“Brave New World” a novel written in the early 1930’s described a future where the masses are lacking the ability to think critically yet basically have an infinite amount of distractions (like perhaps “FaceBook” and “Twitter”), while those further up the food chain (i.e. the 1%) are shown to revel in a consumption and pleasure lifestylejust sayin’ if “Piggington forums” (where discussions about “critical thoughts” happen on occasion) were transported into a “Brave New World” universe, it might be a regional bridge/oasis between the majority WITHOUT wealth or some critical-thoughts and the 1% WITH wealth in addition to an introspection ability
so wondering would a three sentence response (like this) blatantly written trying to be insightful and succinct, get an upvote?[/quote]Depends on how far into the Brave New World we are… or the ‘New World Order’.. Would it also mean that those with critical thought could use it to succeed among a world of lemmings? Or would the lemmings turn cattle stampede and run the thinker into the ground.
Would critical thought and dissenting opinion be made criminal? After all, in the Brave New World – all you need to do is the same as every other lemming.
ParticipantWhy didn’t the girls call police when the first few forced their way in? Call police, then your daughter and friends should have started taking pictures.
Then hand the pictures to the police and let them track the people down. If one of the people there was the person who set it all up – then there would be leads…
Personally, I think one of the girls thought it would be ‘fun’, but it quickly got out of hand. This is probably why the delay in the police. I think they would have immediately called if the forceful entry was a complete surprise.
I vote for video security system – hide the controller and hard drives that the system uses (don’t use attic because the heat damages electronic hardware)
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