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November 10, 2009 at 12:37 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480511November 10, 2009 at 12:37 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480593
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ParticipantBut we need to deal with things one step at a time.
The first order of priority is to provide universal health care.
Why is universal health care the first step?? The real problem is the costs.. Universal Health care is seen as the solution… why not address the real cause first.. and then see if Universal Health care is really needed. All that Universal Health care will do is hide the costs.. and give the money gobbling parties yet a bigger purse to feed from. This is likely to stop people from pursuing the real costs because they can no longer see them. They just see ‘higher taxes’ and not the real cause. The politicians then can start using the hot-potato blame game to keep themselves in power..
November 10, 2009 at 12:37 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480815ucodegen
ParticipantBut we need to deal with things one step at a time.
The first order of priority is to provide universal health care.
Why is universal health care the first step?? The real problem is the costs.. Universal Health care is seen as the solution… why not address the real cause first.. and then see if Universal Health care is really needed. All that Universal Health care will do is hide the costs.. and give the money gobbling parties yet a bigger purse to feed from. This is likely to stop people from pursuing the real costs because they can no longer see them. They just see ‘higher taxes’ and not the real cause. The politicians then can start using the hot-potato blame game to keep themselves in power..
November 10, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479991ucodegen
ParticipantThere’s a reason why Nursing homes can charge less. Do you know the patients to nurse ratio in a nursing home vs a hospital? I can tell you it’s drastically different and that would be one of the major contributor to the price differences.
Actually, it is close to the same between nursing home and hospital in terms of nurse/patient ratios. Nursing homes have a higher ratio of elderly patients than hospitals. Even at 2x ratio, it is not enough of a difference. To weigh out the difference, you’ll need ($90,000 – $3,500)/($80,000/12) = 12.975 nurses per patient, full time dedicated to one patient only.. doesn’t work. I initially thought the same as you until I had to deal with both of my parent’s issues (Dad was in nursing home, Mother had to go to hospital for spinal stenosis).
Also remember that hospitals microbill you for every nit..
November 10, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480159ucodegen
ParticipantThere’s a reason why Nursing homes can charge less. Do you know the patients to nurse ratio in a nursing home vs a hospital? I can tell you it’s drastically different and that would be one of the major contributor to the price differences.
Actually, it is close to the same between nursing home and hospital in terms of nurse/patient ratios. Nursing homes have a higher ratio of elderly patients than hospitals. Even at 2x ratio, it is not enough of a difference. To weigh out the difference, you’ll need ($90,000 – $3,500)/($80,000/12) = 12.975 nurses per patient, full time dedicated to one patient only.. doesn’t work. I initially thought the same as you until I had to deal with both of my parent’s issues (Dad was in nursing home, Mother had to go to hospital for spinal stenosis).
Also remember that hospitals microbill you for every nit..
November 10, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480516ucodegen
ParticipantThere’s a reason why Nursing homes can charge less. Do you know the patients to nurse ratio in a nursing home vs a hospital? I can tell you it’s drastically different and that would be one of the major contributor to the price differences.
Actually, it is close to the same between nursing home and hospital in terms of nurse/patient ratios. Nursing homes have a higher ratio of elderly patients than hospitals. Even at 2x ratio, it is not enough of a difference. To weigh out the difference, you’ll need ($90,000 – $3,500)/($80,000/12) = 12.975 nurses per patient, full time dedicated to one patient only.. doesn’t work. I initially thought the same as you until I had to deal with both of my parent’s issues (Dad was in nursing home, Mother had to go to hospital for spinal stenosis).
Also remember that hospitals microbill you for every nit..
November 10, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480598ucodegen
ParticipantThere’s a reason why Nursing homes can charge less. Do you know the patients to nurse ratio in a nursing home vs a hospital? I can tell you it’s drastically different and that would be one of the major contributor to the price differences.
Actually, it is close to the same between nursing home and hospital in terms of nurse/patient ratios. Nursing homes have a higher ratio of elderly patients than hospitals. Even at 2x ratio, it is not enough of a difference. To weigh out the difference, you’ll need ($90,000 – $3,500)/($80,000/12) = 12.975 nurses per patient, full time dedicated to one patient only.. doesn’t work. I initially thought the same as you until I had to deal with both of my parent’s issues (Dad was in nursing home, Mother had to go to hospital for spinal stenosis).
Also remember that hospitals microbill you for every nit..
November 10, 2009 at 12:35 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480820ucodegen
ParticipantThere’s a reason why Nursing homes can charge less. Do you know the patients to nurse ratio in a nursing home vs a hospital? I can tell you it’s drastically different and that would be one of the major contributor to the price differences.
Actually, it is close to the same between nursing home and hospital in terms of nurse/patient ratios. Nursing homes have a higher ratio of elderly patients than hospitals. Even at 2x ratio, it is not enough of a difference. To weigh out the difference, you’ll need ($90,000 – $3,500)/($80,000/12) = 12.975 nurses per patient, full time dedicated to one patient only.. doesn’t work. I initially thought the same as you until I had to deal with both of my parent’s issues (Dad was in nursing home, Mother had to go to hospital for spinal stenosis).
Also remember that hospitals microbill you for every nit..
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ParticipantSo CIA knew this guy was a “terrorist” for months and did nothing? Man this story is falling apart at the seams. All that wiretapping and ease dropping is supposed to keep us safe. What happened here?
The CIA is neither Central nor Intelligent. There are several little fiefdoms within the CIA.. each trying to gain power/protect themselves at the cost of another ‘fiefdom’. The CIA also does not act Intelligently.. it acts bureaucratically.
Remember that the CIA had warnings from their men in the field that several Arabs were taking pilot training and that they seems more concerned with flying and less with take-off/landing. The higher ups dismissed the warnings from the men in the field. This was pre 9/11
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ParticipantSo CIA knew this guy was a “terrorist” for months and did nothing? Man this story is falling apart at the seams. All that wiretapping and ease dropping is supposed to keep us safe. What happened here?
The CIA is neither Central nor Intelligent. There are several little fiefdoms within the CIA.. each trying to gain power/protect themselves at the cost of another ‘fiefdom’. The CIA also does not act Intelligently.. it acts bureaucratically.
Remember that the CIA had warnings from their men in the field that several Arabs were taking pilot training and that they seems more concerned with flying and less with take-off/landing. The higher ups dismissed the warnings from the men in the field. This was pre 9/11
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ParticipantSo CIA knew this guy was a “terrorist” for months and did nothing? Man this story is falling apart at the seams. All that wiretapping and ease dropping is supposed to keep us safe. What happened here?
The CIA is neither Central nor Intelligent. There are several little fiefdoms within the CIA.. each trying to gain power/protect themselves at the cost of another ‘fiefdom’. The CIA also does not act Intelligently.. it acts bureaucratically.
Remember that the CIA had warnings from their men in the field that several Arabs were taking pilot training and that they seems more concerned with flying and less with take-off/landing. The higher ups dismissed the warnings from the men in the field. This was pre 9/11
ucodegen
ParticipantSo CIA knew this guy was a “terrorist” for months and did nothing? Man this story is falling apart at the seams. All that wiretapping and ease dropping is supposed to keep us safe. What happened here?
The CIA is neither Central nor Intelligent. There are several little fiefdoms within the CIA.. each trying to gain power/protect themselves at the cost of another ‘fiefdom’. The CIA also does not act Intelligently.. it acts bureaucratically.
Remember that the CIA had warnings from their men in the field that several Arabs were taking pilot training and that they seems more concerned with flying and less with take-off/landing. The higher ups dismissed the warnings from the men in the field. This was pre 9/11
ucodegen
ParticipantSo CIA knew this guy was a “terrorist” for months and did nothing? Man this story is falling apart at the seams. All that wiretapping and ease dropping is supposed to keep us safe. What happened here?
The CIA is neither Central nor Intelligent. There are several little fiefdoms within the CIA.. each trying to gain power/protect themselves at the cost of another ‘fiefdom’. The CIA also does not act Intelligently.. it acts bureaucratically.
Remember that the CIA had warnings from their men in the field that several Arabs were taking pilot training and that they seems more concerned with flying and less with take-off/landing. The higher ups dismissed the warnings from the men in the field. This was pre 9/11
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ParticipantWhen you can’t unload a Canadian Maple Leaf for $50 – or even give it away – because the sheep are too gun shy and addicted to paper, then I think it’s safe to say that gold has a LOOOOONG way to run.
Sounds like the argument used by people saying that housing has much more to go up. Bubbles burst when there is no-one willing to buy at the new higher price.. and people have to unload. This applies to gold as well as housing. Since he could not unload the gold coin at the desired price.. it means that the ‘real’ price is actually lower.
NOTE: I think the real thing is that people are brain dead is the real reason. Quotable from the video… “I don’t even have $5 on me..”.
The other problem is being to ID if it is a real coin or not.. I wonder how many people have actually seen a Maple Leaf gold coin and know what its purity is.
Comment on yahoo:
I’m a gold/silver bug, and I wouldn’t buy from this guy off the street either. There are too many fakes, and how can you tell if this guy is telling the truth about the coin?
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ParticipantWhen you can’t unload a Canadian Maple Leaf for $50 – or even give it away – because the sheep are too gun shy and addicted to paper, then I think it’s safe to say that gold has a LOOOOONG way to run.
Sounds like the argument used by people saying that housing has much more to go up. Bubbles burst when there is no-one willing to buy at the new higher price.. and people have to unload. This applies to gold as well as housing. Since he could not unload the gold coin at the desired price.. it means that the ‘real’ price is actually lower.
NOTE: I think the real thing is that people are brain dead is the real reason. Quotable from the video… “I don’t even have $5 on me..”.
The other problem is being to ID if it is a real coin or not.. I wonder how many people have actually seen a Maple Leaf gold coin and know what its purity is.
Comment on yahoo:
I’m a gold/silver bug, and I wouldn’t buy from this guy off the street either. There are too many fakes, and how can you tell if this guy is telling the truth about the coin?
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