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ucodegen
ParticipantSo under your system, if someone is sick near death, doesn’t have insurance and can’t pay, then what? Let that person die on the street?
Last time I checked, Medicaid already takes care of these…
ucodegen
ParticipantSo under your system, if someone is sick near death, doesn’t have insurance and can’t pay, then what? Let that person die on the street?
Last time I checked, Medicaid already takes care of these…
ucodegen
ParticipantThe biggest issues I have with the bill is that it didn’t eliminate the anti-trust exemption and it didn’t allow for reimportation of pharmaceuticals. Those would have created real reform.
For me, this is not the biggest issue, but it does show that this bill was not really about reform. It didn’t do much to address the sources of costs.
With pharmaceuticals; I would put it as either the re-importation of pharmaceuticals or ‘price leveling’ using an open market. No sector price differentiation (one price for one location and a completely different price for a different location).
In other words, the majority of Americans with an opinion support the health care reform in this bill _or a more radical version of health care reform_.
Your conclusion is not supported by evidence at hand. BTW, which poll was this, and where was it located. How was the question worded. You can easily ‘load’ the statement by saying: Do you believe in the need for health care reform. The question is; what form should it really take.
ucodegen
ParticipantThe biggest issues I have with the bill is that it didn’t eliminate the anti-trust exemption and it didn’t allow for reimportation of pharmaceuticals. Those would have created real reform.
For me, this is not the biggest issue, but it does show that this bill was not really about reform. It didn’t do much to address the sources of costs.
With pharmaceuticals; I would put it as either the re-importation of pharmaceuticals or ‘price leveling’ using an open market. No sector price differentiation (one price for one location and a completely different price for a different location).
In other words, the majority of Americans with an opinion support the health care reform in this bill _or a more radical version of health care reform_.
Your conclusion is not supported by evidence at hand. BTW, which poll was this, and where was it located. How was the question worded. You can easily ‘load’ the statement by saying: Do you believe in the need for health care reform. The question is; what form should it really take.
ucodegen
ParticipantThe biggest issues I have with the bill is that it didn’t eliminate the anti-trust exemption and it didn’t allow for reimportation of pharmaceuticals. Those would have created real reform.
For me, this is not the biggest issue, but it does show that this bill was not really about reform. It didn’t do much to address the sources of costs.
With pharmaceuticals; I would put it as either the re-importation of pharmaceuticals or ‘price leveling’ using an open market. No sector price differentiation (one price for one location and a completely different price for a different location).
In other words, the majority of Americans with an opinion support the health care reform in this bill _or a more radical version of health care reform_.
Your conclusion is not supported by evidence at hand. BTW, which poll was this, and where was it located. How was the question worded. You can easily ‘load’ the statement by saying: Do you believe in the need for health care reform. The question is; what form should it really take.
ucodegen
ParticipantThe biggest issues I have with the bill is that it didn’t eliminate the anti-trust exemption and it didn’t allow for reimportation of pharmaceuticals. Those would have created real reform.
For me, this is not the biggest issue, but it does show that this bill was not really about reform. It didn’t do much to address the sources of costs.
With pharmaceuticals; I would put it as either the re-importation of pharmaceuticals or ‘price leveling’ using an open market. No sector price differentiation (one price for one location and a completely different price for a different location).
In other words, the majority of Americans with an opinion support the health care reform in this bill _or a more radical version of health care reform_.
Your conclusion is not supported by evidence at hand. BTW, which poll was this, and where was it located. How was the question worded. You can easily ‘load’ the statement by saying: Do you believe in the need for health care reform. The question is; what form should it really take.
ucodegen
ParticipantThe biggest issues I have with the bill is that it didn’t eliminate the anti-trust exemption and it didn’t allow for reimportation of pharmaceuticals. Those would have created real reform.
For me, this is not the biggest issue, but it does show that this bill was not really about reform. It didn’t do much to address the sources of costs.
With pharmaceuticals; I would put it as either the re-importation of pharmaceuticals or ‘price leveling’ using an open market. No sector price differentiation (one price for one location and a completely different price for a different location).
In other words, the majority of Americans with an opinion support the health care reform in this bill _or a more radical version of health care reform_.
Your conclusion is not supported by evidence at hand. BTW, which poll was this, and where was it located. How was the question worded. You can easily ‘load’ the statement by saying: Do you believe in the need for health care reform. The question is; what form should it really take.
ucodegen
ParticipantHowever, while this rule applies to U.S. citizens and I guess folks with P.R., what does this do with folks that are not here legally? Obviously they aren’t part of this plan. Do hospitals continue to provide non-legal residence free medical care?
Last I heard, this bill actually bans illegals from buying insurance under the new structure/insurance exchange. If the bill was really about reducing costs, it would allow them to at least pay for some of their costs. What it really is about, is a gimmie to the insurance companies. The claimed costs of the uninsured on the system is not as dramatic as claimed. Remember that an unpaid hospital bill will follow you until it gets paid or you go through bankruptcy. As I have mentioned earlier, either way you look at it, the bill has to be paid; either directly by you, by insurance or taxes. All that happened with this bill, is that the individual has less choice as to whom the money is paid and for what.
ucodegen
ParticipantHowever, while this rule applies to U.S. citizens and I guess folks with P.R., what does this do with folks that are not here legally? Obviously they aren’t part of this plan. Do hospitals continue to provide non-legal residence free medical care?
Last I heard, this bill actually bans illegals from buying insurance under the new structure/insurance exchange. If the bill was really about reducing costs, it would allow them to at least pay for some of their costs. What it really is about, is a gimmie to the insurance companies. The claimed costs of the uninsured on the system is not as dramatic as claimed. Remember that an unpaid hospital bill will follow you until it gets paid or you go through bankruptcy. As I have mentioned earlier, either way you look at it, the bill has to be paid; either directly by you, by insurance or taxes. All that happened with this bill, is that the individual has less choice as to whom the money is paid and for what.
ucodegen
ParticipantHowever, while this rule applies to U.S. citizens and I guess folks with P.R., what does this do with folks that are not here legally? Obviously they aren’t part of this plan. Do hospitals continue to provide non-legal residence free medical care?
Last I heard, this bill actually bans illegals from buying insurance under the new structure/insurance exchange. If the bill was really about reducing costs, it would allow them to at least pay for some of their costs. What it really is about, is a gimmie to the insurance companies. The claimed costs of the uninsured on the system is not as dramatic as claimed. Remember that an unpaid hospital bill will follow you until it gets paid or you go through bankruptcy. As I have mentioned earlier, either way you look at it, the bill has to be paid; either directly by you, by insurance or taxes. All that happened with this bill, is that the individual has less choice as to whom the money is paid and for what.
ucodegen
ParticipantHowever, while this rule applies to U.S. citizens and I guess folks with P.R., what does this do with folks that are not here legally? Obviously they aren’t part of this plan. Do hospitals continue to provide non-legal residence free medical care?
Last I heard, this bill actually bans illegals from buying insurance under the new structure/insurance exchange. If the bill was really about reducing costs, it would allow them to at least pay for some of their costs. What it really is about, is a gimmie to the insurance companies. The claimed costs of the uninsured on the system is not as dramatic as claimed. Remember that an unpaid hospital bill will follow you until it gets paid or you go through bankruptcy. As I have mentioned earlier, either way you look at it, the bill has to be paid; either directly by you, by insurance or taxes. All that happened with this bill, is that the individual has less choice as to whom the money is paid and for what.
ucodegen
ParticipantHowever, while this rule applies to U.S. citizens and I guess folks with P.R., what does this do with folks that are not here legally? Obviously they aren’t part of this plan. Do hospitals continue to provide non-legal residence free medical care?
Last I heard, this bill actually bans illegals from buying insurance under the new structure/insurance exchange. If the bill was really about reducing costs, it would allow them to at least pay for some of their costs. What it really is about, is a gimmie to the insurance companies. The claimed costs of the uninsured on the system is not as dramatic as claimed. Remember that an unpaid hospital bill will follow you until it gets paid or you go through bankruptcy. As I have mentioned earlier, either way you look at it, the bill has to be paid; either directly by you, by insurance or taxes. All that happened with this bill, is that the individual has less choice as to whom the money is paid and for what.
ucodegen
ParticipantWhat i want to know is who is IForget?
They don’t know.. they forgot. 8-P
ucodegen
ParticipantWhat i want to know is who is IForget?
They don’t know.. they forgot. 8-P
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