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ParticipantWhat is the point of all this ‘name twisting’ and ‘nicknaming’? It doesn’t serve anything to further the discussion. It is quite juvenile.
[quote investor]Just wanted to get others opinion on what griffin said. But, a lot of you folks like to throw bombs instead of debating what griffin said.
[/quote]You did get an opinion, though not an opinion that you liked. Davelj even did a break down in more detail here… but you disappeared from that thread.[quote investor]I applaud allen for being willing to take the subject at hand to heart and be willing to further study it. He is the only one on this entire thread that seems to be willing to do that.
[/quote]You seem to be missing something. He stated that he may have seen the “Money Matters aka Money Masters” DVD, but on the point of Giffin, Allan said that he was a crank. .. more than once.Not to put words in Allan’s mouth/keyboard, nor to conjecture what Allan from Fallbrook’s intent was, but I don’t think he mentioned anything about being willing to further study it.
The whole exchange has left me with conclusion that you are looking for affirmation, not discussion.
[quote SK in CV]I can’t believe i missed the damn party.[/quote]
No you didn’t.. 8-PParticipantWhat is the point of all this ‘name twisting’ and ‘nicknaming’? It doesn’t serve anything to further the discussion. It is quite juvenile.
[quote investor]Just wanted to get others opinion on what griffin said. But, a lot of you folks like to throw bombs instead of debating what griffin said.
[/quote]You did get an opinion, though not an opinion that you liked. Davelj even did a break down in more detail here… but you disappeared from that thread.[quote investor]I applaud allen for being willing to take the subject at hand to heart and be willing to further study it. He is the only one on this entire thread that seems to be willing to do that.
[/quote]You seem to be missing something. He stated that he may have seen the “Money Matters aka Money Masters” DVD, but on the point of Giffin, Allan said that he was a crank. .. more than once.Not to put words in Allan’s mouth/keyboard, nor to conjecture what Allan from Fallbrook’s intent was, but I don’t think he mentioned anything about being willing to further study it.
The whole exchange has left me with conclusion that you are looking for affirmation, not discussion.
[quote SK in CV]I can’t believe i missed the damn party.[/quote]
No you didn’t.. 8-PParticipant[quote Operation]
The house is 5 years old. I haven’t checked the breaker box. We are approx 20-25′ from the next door neighbor. The lines are all under-ground.
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Beats me then, why they didn’t wire in the 220v to the dryer.Then again, I believe that all garages should have 220v wired into them for the tools.. aka toys. 😉
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The house is 5 years old. I haven’t checked the breaker box. We are approx 20-25′ from the next door neighbor. The lines are all under-ground.
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Beats me then, why they didn’t wire in the 220v to the dryer.Then again, I believe that all garages should have 220v wired into them for the tools.. aka toys. 😉
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The house is 5 years old. I haven’t checked the breaker box. We are approx 20-25′ from the next door neighbor. The lines are all under-ground.
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Beats me then, why they didn’t wire in the 220v to the dryer.Then again, I believe that all garages should have 220v wired into them for the tools.. aka toys. 😉
Participant[quote Operation]
The house is 5 years old. I haven’t checked the breaker box. We are approx 20-25′ from the next door neighbor. The lines are all under-ground.
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Beats me then, why they didn’t wire in the 220v to the dryer.Then again, I believe that all garages should have 220v wired into them for the tools.. aka toys. 😉
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The house is 5 years old. I haven’t checked the breaker box. We are approx 20-25′ from the next door neighbor. The lines are all under-ground.
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Beats me then, why they didn’t wire in the 220v to the dryer.Then again, I believe that all garages should have 220v wired into them for the tools.. aka toys. 😉
ParticipantYou may also want to check the amperage rating of your service box. The only reason I could see not having 220v is that the service box may not have the capacity. Most houses are wired/plumbed for both gas and electric dryers. The wiring to the house tends to be two powered lines with 180degree phase difference and a ground line. If the power comes to the house from a pole, you can see two black insulated wires(power, two different phases) and a silver one(ground). 120v is supplied by going from one of the power lines to ground. The breaker box is often wired so that 120v power is drawn roughly equally from both phases. 220v is supplied by going across the two power lines.
How old is the house? How far away from other houses and power lines? I could see houses that are a significant distance from the 3k-v step down not having electric dryers (rural). Plumbed gas or propane?
Another question to ask is; are you ever going to use tools that require 220v because of a hobby.
With info you have provided so far, I would have to agree with FormerSanDiegan.
ParticipantYou may also want to check the amperage rating of your service box. The only reason I could see not having 220v is that the service box may not have the capacity. Most houses are wired/plumbed for both gas and electric dryers. The wiring to the house tends to be two powered lines with 180degree phase difference and a ground line. If the power comes to the house from a pole, you can see two black insulated wires(power, two different phases) and a silver one(ground). 120v is supplied by going from one of the power lines to ground. The breaker box is often wired so that 120v power is drawn roughly equally from both phases. 220v is supplied by going across the two power lines.
How old is the house? How far away from other houses and power lines? I could see houses that are a significant distance from the 3k-v step down not having electric dryers (rural). Plumbed gas or propane?
Another question to ask is; are you ever going to use tools that require 220v because of a hobby.
With info you have provided so far, I would have to agree with FormerSanDiegan.
ParticipantYou may also want to check the amperage rating of your service box. The only reason I could see not having 220v is that the service box may not have the capacity. Most houses are wired/plumbed for both gas and electric dryers. The wiring to the house tends to be two powered lines with 180degree phase difference and a ground line. If the power comes to the house from a pole, you can see two black insulated wires(power, two different phases) and a silver one(ground). 120v is supplied by going from one of the power lines to ground. The breaker box is often wired so that 120v power is drawn roughly equally from both phases. 220v is supplied by going across the two power lines.
How old is the house? How far away from other houses and power lines? I could see houses that are a significant distance from the 3k-v step down not having electric dryers (rural). Plumbed gas or propane?
Another question to ask is; are you ever going to use tools that require 220v because of a hobby.
With info you have provided so far, I would have to agree with FormerSanDiegan.
ParticipantYou may also want to check the amperage rating of your service box. The only reason I could see not having 220v is that the service box may not have the capacity. Most houses are wired/plumbed for both gas and electric dryers. The wiring to the house tends to be two powered lines with 180degree phase difference and a ground line. If the power comes to the house from a pole, you can see two black insulated wires(power, two different phases) and a silver one(ground). 120v is supplied by going from one of the power lines to ground. The breaker box is often wired so that 120v power is drawn roughly equally from both phases. 220v is supplied by going across the two power lines.
How old is the house? How far away from other houses and power lines? I could see houses that are a significant distance from the 3k-v step down not having electric dryers (rural). Plumbed gas or propane?
Another question to ask is; are you ever going to use tools that require 220v because of a hobby.
With info you have provided so far, I would have to agree with FormerSanDiegan.
ParticipantYou may also want to check the amperage rating of your service box. The only reason I could see not having 220v is that the service box may not have the capacity. Most houses are wired/plumbed for both gas and electric dryers. The wiring to the house tends to be two powered lines with 180degree phase difference and a ground line. If the power comes to the house from a pole, you can see two black insulated wires(power, two different phases) and a silver one(ground). 120v is supplied by going from one of the power lines to ground. The breaker box is often wired so that 120v power is drawn roughly equally from both phases. 220v is supplied by going across the two power lines.
How old is the house? How far away from other houses and power lines? I could see houses that are a significant distance from the 3k-v step down not having electric dryers (rural). Plumbed gas or propane?
Another question to ask is; are you ever going to use tools that require 220v because of a hobby.
With info you have provided so far, I would have to agree with FormerSanDiegan.
Participant[quote pri_dk]
Can someone, other than our friend “investor,” explain to me the motivation for the secrecy behind the Fed’s ownership?It is a bit curious, and seems to be to do much to fan the conspiracy theory flames.
What’s the wisdom behind this structure?
[/quote]Wisdom from which perspective?
From the perspective of the entities that have ownership:
keeping your association and potential influence in the Fed secret.From the political point of view:
see above and mix in political contributions.From the view of the citizens:
None what so ever.While the conspiracy theorists are largely pointing in the wrong directions, there are issues out there. The ‘monied’ don’t mind the conspiracists because they keep pointing in the wrong directions, and they can ‘work’ in the background (diversion technique).
How about:
Why is a CDS(Credit Default Swap) not considered an insurance product – despite what it does and its associated risk exposure. Who/what has an interest on keeping the current status quo with respect to CDS(s).Why was the TARP lending done to BofA for 3.5%, but it was lent to FRE/FNM at 10%? This is ignoring the fact that congress did a bit of meddling in the running of FRE/FNM an may have some to do with the current state of both entities. At what rate was TARP money lent to GS?
During the rapid one-day drop in the stock market, why were some of the trades unwound? Who was being protected? Wouldn’t this type of protection be creating a moral hazard? (many more questions on this one item).
Participant[quote pri_dk]
Can someone, other than our friend “investor,” explain to me the motivation for the secrecy behind the Fed’s ownership?It is a bit curious, and seems to be to do much to fan the conspiracy theory flames.
What’s the wisdom behind this structure?
[/quote]Wisdom from which perspective?
From the perspective of the entities that have ownership:
keeping your association and potential influence in the Fed secret.From the political point of view:
see above and mix in political contributions.From the view of the citizens:
None what so ever.While the conspiracy theorists are largely pointing in the wrong directions, there are issues out there. The ‘monied’ don’t mind the conspiracists because they keep pointing in the wrong directions, and they can ‘work’ in the background (diversion technique).
How about:
Why is a CDS(Credit Default Swap) not considered an insurance product – despite what it does and its associated risk exposure. Who/what has an interest on keeping the current status quo with respect to CDS(s).Why was the TARP lending done to BofA for 3.5%, but it was lent to FRE/FNM at 10%? This is ignoring the fact that congress did a bit of meddling in the running of FRE/FNM an may have some to do with the current state of both entities. At what rate was TARP money lent to GS?
During the rapid one-day drop in the stock market, why were some of the trades unwound? Who was being protected? Wouldn’t this type of protection be creating a moral hazard? (many more questions on this one item).
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