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Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea]The main issue of going with tankless is that you will probably need a bigger gas line and better venting than what you have. Which may make the installation more expensive.
Remember that now to install even a tank heater, you need a permit from the city and a visit from an inspector to make sure it is done right. If you end up doing something to the gas line to go tankless, probably another permit/inspection will be required…[/quote]
Yes. Permits are required.
And to answer brian’s question – yes we installed it outside. The big challenge was that it had to be a certain distance from operable windows – so that gases (CO) wouldn’t get into the house. So even an outside installation requires thought about “venting”.
Replacing our old tank, in it’s location, with it’s pipe runs, would have left us with the same problem. If we hadn’t had those issues (hot water pipes going through slab, exceptionally long runs from tank to sink/shower) we probably would have stayed with a tank model.
UCGal
Participant[quote=enron_by_the_sea]The main issue of going with tankless is that you will probably need a bigger gas line and better venting than what you have. Which may make the installation more expensive.
Remember that now to install even a tank heater, you need a permit from the city and a visit from an inspector to make sure it is done right. If you end up doing something to the gas line to go tankless, probably another permit/inspection will be required…[/quote]
Yes. Permits are required.
And to answer brian’s question – yes we installed it outside. The big challenge was that it had to be a certain distance from operable windows – so that gases (CO) wouldn’t get into the house. So even an outside installation requires thought about “venting”.
Replacing our old tank, in it’s location, with it’s pipe runs, would have left us with the same problem. If we hadn’t had those issues (hot water pipes going through slab, exceptionally long runs from tank to sink/shower) we probably would have stayed with a tank model.
UCGal
ParticipantWe switched to tankless to solve a few problems.
Our 60’s era house had the tank water heater in the garage -then ran the non-insulated pipes through the concrete foundation, in a very convoluted way. Basically it ran across the house, then up to the 2nd floor, then back to the first floor and over to the kitchen sink. It took forever to get hot water at the kitchen sink. And almost as long to get it at an upstairs shower.Hubby opened up walls and ceilings and did the runs from the new tankless location – right outside the kitchen window – and we literally have hot on demand now… almost instantly.
Tankless advantages: – no matter how many people take a shower or bath, how much laundry is run, etc – you won’t run out of hot water.
Tankless disadvantage – if you and/or your family take long showers… you’ll see an increase in your power bill… because you never run out of hot water.
UCGal
ParticipantWe switched to tankless to solve a few problems.
Our 60’s era house had the tank water heater in the garage -then ran the non-insulated pipes through the concrete foundation, in a very convoluted way. Basically it ran across the house, then up to the 2nd floor, then back to the first floor and over to the kitchen sink. It took forever to get hot water at the kitchen sink. And almost as long to get it at an upstairs shower.Hubby opened up walls and ceilings and did the runs from the new tankless location – right outside the kitchen window – and we literally have hot on demand now… almost instantly.
Tankless advantages: – no matter how many people take a shower or bath, how much laundry is run, etc – you won’t run out of hot water.
Tankless disadvantage – if you and/or your family take long showers… you’ll see an increase in your power bill… because you never run out of hot water.
UCGal
ParticipantWe switched to tankless to solve a few problems.
Our 60’s era house had the tank water heater in the garage -then ran the non-insulated pipes through the concrete foundation, in a very convoluted way. Basically it ran across the house, then up to the 2nd floor, then back to the first floor and over to the kitchen sink. It took forever to get hot water at the kitchen sink. And almost as long to get it at an upstairs shower.Hubby opened up walls and ceilings and did the runs from the new tankless location – right outside the kitchen window – and we literally have hot on demand now… almost instantly.
Tankless advantages: – no matter how many people take a shower or bath, how much laundry is run, etc – you won’t run out of hot water.
Tankless disadvantage – if you and/or your family take long showers… you’ll see an increase in your power bill… because you never run out of hot water.
UCGal
ParticipantWe switched to tankless to solve a few problems.
Our 60’s era house had the tank water heater in the garage -then ran the non-insulated pipes through the concrete foundation, in a very convoluted way. Basically it ran across the house, then up to the 2nd floor, then back to the first floor and over to the kitchen sink. It took forever to get hot water at the kitchen sink. And almost as long to get it at an upstairs shower.Hubby opened up walls and ceilings and did the runs from the new tankless location – right outside the kitchen window – and we literally have hot on demand now… almost instantly.
Tankless advantages: – no matter how many people take a shower or bath, how much laundry is run, etc – you won’t run out of hot water.
Tankless disadvantage – if you and/or your family take long showers… you’ll see an increase in your power bill… because you never run out of hot water.
UCGal
ParticipantWe switched to tankless to solve a few problems.
Our 60’s era house had the tank water heater in the garage -then ran the non-insulated pipes through the concrete foundation, in a very convoluted way. Basically it ran across the house, then up to the 2nd floor, then back to the first floor and over to the kitchen sink. It took forever to get hot water at the kitchen sink. And almost as long to get it at an upstairs shower.Hubby opened up walls and ceilings and did the runs from the new tankless location – right outside the kitchen window – and we literally have hot on demand now… almost instantly.
Tankless advantages: – no matter how many people take a shower or bath, how much laundry is run, etc – you won’t run out of hot water.
Tankless disadvantage – if you and/or your family take long showers… you’ll see an increase in your power bill… because you never run out of hot water.
UCGal
ParticipantThere could still be a hooker corpse UNDER the lines. LOL.
UCGal
ParticipantThere could still be a hooker corpse UNDER the lines. LOL.
UCGal
ParticipantThere could still be a hooker corpse UNDER the lines. LOL.
UCGal
ParticipantThere could still be a hooker corpse UNDER the lines. LOL.
UCGal
ParticipantThere could still be a hooker corpse UNDER the lines. LOL.
UCGal
Participant[quote=afx114]Another awesome Photoshop clone tool disaster:
I wonder what they got rid of? Homeless encampment in the canyon perhaps? Mosquito infested cesspool? Dead hooker corpse?[/quote]
I think they were trying to remove power/cable/phone lines.Looking at Redfin – and the different angles you can get, it looks like the power poles are actually in that canyon. And everyone’s homes are all hooked up to.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/1630-Edgemont-St-92102/home/5820556
UCGal
Participant[quote=afx114]Another awesome Photoshop clone tool disaster:
I wonder what they got rid of? Homeless encampment in the canyon perhaps? Mosquito infested cesspool? Dead hooker corpse?[/quote]
I think they were trying to remove power/cable/phone lines.Looking at Redfin – and the different angles you can get, it looks like the power poles are actually in that canyon. And everyone’s homes are all hooked up to.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/San-Diego/1630-Edgemont-St-92102/home/5820556
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