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Participant[quote=briansd1]
I know people who built houses designed with the intention of adding living space later ( via loft/second floor, closing in breezeways, etc…). They were maxed out on living space so they just built inside, without permits, after the structures were completed and passed inspection.
There’s nothing wrong or unsafe about not getting a permit, other than the official records don’t show the additional space.
Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do.[/quote]
You are at risk that you will be asked to tear it down.
It happens.And we were VERY glad we had the permit(s) required… While in the grading phase, an inspector from the engineering department came by and demanded to see the permit. The contractor hadn’t called him… he just saw heavy equipment and he dropped by. He would have shut the job down.
It’s risky to do a visible project without a permit.
Small stuff, like moving an outlet or light fixture… less risky. Big stuff, visible from the street… more risk.
Do you feel lucky, punk? (said in my best Clint voice.)
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I know people who built houses designed with the intention of adding living space later ( via loft/second floor, closing in breezeways, etc…). They were maxed out on living space so they just built inside, without permits, after the structures were completed and passed inspection.
There’s nothing wrong or unsafe about not getting a permit, other than the official records don’t show the additional space.
Sometimes, you gotta do what you gotta do.[/quote]
You are at risk that you will be asked to tear it down.
It happens.And we were VERY glad we had the permit(s) required… While in the grading phase, an inspector from the engineering department came by and demanded to see the permit. The contractor hadn’t called him… he just saw heavy equipment and he dropped by. He would have shut the job down.
It’s risky to do a visible project without a permit.
Small stuff, like moving an outlet or light fixture… less risky. Big stuff, visible from the street… more risk.
Do you feel lucky, punk? (said in my best Clint voice.)
Participant[quote=Jacarandoso]I think you potentially have a decent deal with this person, Brian. Someone might do the plans cheaper, but if you know this person is good that’s worth something.
If you choose to go with him, pace about half the money due to him up to plan check with a payment when the building department takes your prints in. Give him the rest when you get approval to get permits. Could be “over the counter” too, but I doubt it.
Check with the building department to find out what the reasonable time for them to process your project is and hold you guy to it.
That’s about how I would do it anyway. I have drawn and submitted house plans three times now with the county. I did one plan check with the city when my client’s architect was dropping the ball. The biggest problem I had with any of my own submittals was getting past the loathsome rookie technicians with the county who kept doling out odd requirements for the pre-submittal process one at a time. I finally lost my temper with them and got with a supervisor who put a stop to it. Other than that it wasn’t bad at all.
Sometimes you have to fend off bogus requirements so experience helps there too. Maybe someone else wouldn’t fight for you as much as you would for yourself.[/quote]
ITA with what Russell said.
My husband went through the Kafka-esque permit process for the companion unit. He also deals with Development Services for work. (He’s an architect)… The process can be very frustrating.
Even a lot of contractors have people just to sit in line… DH described one person who had taken over a desk in the hall – she worked for a couple of different contractors pulling permits for them, submitting change requests… Her entire life was spent at development services. Not fun. This was during a more boom time (2006/2007)… when he was trying to get our plans through.
Participant[quote=Jacarandoso]I think you potentially have a decent deal with this person, Brian. Someone might do the plans cheaper, but if you know this person is good that’s worth something.
If you choose to go with him, pace about half the money due to him up to plan check with a payment when the building department takes your prints in. Give him the rest when you get approval to get permits. Could be “over the counter” too, but I doubt it.
Check with the building department to find out what the reasonable time for them to process your project is and hold you guy to it.
That’s about how I would do it anyway. I have drawn and submitted house plans three times now with the county. I did one plan check with the city when my client’s architect was dropping the ball. The biggest problem I had with any of my own submittals was getting past the loathsome rookie technicians with the county who kept doling out odd requirements for the pre-submittal process one at a time. I finally lost my temper with them and got with a supervisor who put a stop to it. Other than that it wasn’t bad at all.
Sometimes you have to fend off bogus requirements so experience helps there too. Maybe someone else wouldn’t fight for you as much as you would for yourself.[/quote]
ITA with what Russell said.
My husband went through the Kafka-esque permit process for the companion unit. He also deals with Development Services for work. (He’s an architect)… The process can be very frustrating.
Even a lot of contractors have people just to sit in line… DH described one person who had taken over a desk in the hall – she worked for a couple of different contractors pulling permits for them, submitting change requests… Her entire life was spent at development services. Not fun. This was during a more boom time (2006/2007)… when he was trying to get our plans through.
Participant[quote=Jacarandoso]I think you potentially have a decent deal with this person, Brian. Someone might do the plans cheaper, but if you know this person is good that’s worth something.
If you choose to go with him, pace about half the money due to him up to plan check with a payment when the building department takes your prints in. Give him the rest when you get approval to get permits. Could be “over the counter” too, but I doubt it.
Check with the building department to find out what the reasonable time for them to process your project is and hold you guy to it.
That’s about how I would do it anyway. I have drawn and submitted house plans three times now with the county. I did one plan check with the city when my client’s architect was dropping the ball. The biggest problem I had with any of my own submittals was getting past the loathsome rookie technicians with the county who kept doling out odd requirements for the pre-submittal process one at a time. I finally lost my temper with them and got with a supervisor who put a stop to it. Other than that it wasn’t bad at all.
Sometimes you have to fend off bogus requirements so experience helps there too. Maybe someone else wouldn’t fight for you as much as you would for yourself.[/quote]
ITA with what Russell said.
My husband went through the Kafka-esque permit process for the companion unit. He also deals with Development Services for work. (He’s an architect)… The process can be very frustrating.
Even a lot of contractors have people just to sit in line… DH described one person who had taken over a desk in the hall – she worked for a couple of different contractors pulling permits for them, submitting change requests… Her entire life was spent at development services. Not fun. This was during a more boom time (2006/2007)… when he was trying to get our plans through.
Participant[quote=Jacarandoso]I think you potentially have a decent deal with this person, Brian. Someone might do the plans cheaper, but if you know this person is good that’s worth something.
If you choose to go with him, pace about half the money due to him up to plan check with a payment when the building department takes your prints in. Give him the rest when you get approval to get permits. Could be “over the counter” too, but I doubt it.
Check with the building department to find out what the reasonable time for them to process your project is and hold you guy to it.
That’s about how I would do it anyway. I have drawn and submitted house plans three times now with the county. I did one plan check with the city when my client’s architect was dropping the ball. The biggest problem I had with any of my own submittals was getting past the loathsome rookie technicians with the county who kept doling out odd requirements for the pre-submittal process one at a time. I finally lost my temper with them and got with a supervisor who put a stop to it. Other than that it wasn’t bad at all.
Sometimes you have to fend off bogus requirements so experience helps there too. Maybe someone else wouldn’t fight for you as much as you would for yourself.[/quote]
ITA with what Russell said.
My husband went through the Kafka-esque permit process for the companion unit. He also deals with Development Services for work. (He’s an architect)… The process can be very frustrating.
Even a lot of contractors have people just to sit in line… DH described one person who had taken over a desk in the hall – she worked for a couple of different contractors pulling permits for them, submitting change requests… Her entire life was spent at development services. Not fun. This was during a more boom time (2006/2007)… when he was trying to get our plans through.
Participant[quote=Jacarandoso]I think you potentially have a decent deal with this person, Brian. Someone might do the plans cheaper, but if you know this person is good that’s worth something.
If you choose to go with him, pace about half the money due to him up to plan check with a payment when the building department takes your prints in. Give him the rest when you get approval to get permits. Could be “over the counter” too, but I doubt it.
Check with the building department to find out what the reasonable time for them to process your project is and hold you guy to it.
That’s about how I would do it anyway. I have drawn and submitted house plans three times now with the county. I did one plan check with the city when my client’s architect was dropping the ball. The biggest problem I had with any of my own submittals was getting past the loathsome rookie technicians with the county who kept doling out odd requirements for the pre-submittal process one at a time. I finally lost my temper with them and got with a supervisor who put a stop to it. Other than that it wasn’t bad at all.
Sometimes you have to fend off bogus requirements so experience helps there too. Maybe someone else wouldn’t fight for you as much as you would for yourself.[/quote]
ITA with what Russell said.
My husband went through the Kafka-esque permit process for the companion unit. He also deals with Development Services for work. (He’s an architect)… The process can be very frustrating.
Even a lot of contractors have people just to sit in line… DH described one person who had taken over a desk in the hall – she worked for a couple of different contractors pulling permits for them, submitting change requests… Her entire life was spent at development services. Not fun. This was during a more boom time (2006/2007)… when he was trying to get our plans through.
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
So UCGal, you’re saying here that ten years ago, your now husband was 50+?, had no children and had just married (or was engaged) to you?I take it he isn’t from SD but this doesn’t matter. This just fuels my hypothesis that there are MANY 50+ men out there who are seeking to find a spouse ASAP and begin an “immediate” family!
Pls correct me if I missed something… ;=][/quote]
He was 48 when we met and married, 49 when we had our first kid. He turned 50 about a month after our youngest was born.He’s not typical to the guys I dated… Most of the guys who were in their late 30’s through late 40’s that I dated prior had either already had their kids with wife #1 and didn’t want more. (which is fine). Or were NOT the type I’d want to have kids with, even if they wanted them, because of Peter Pan syndrome. I don’t think my husband represents a broad stereotype… and I dated enough guys in my 30’s to say that. (I had the ticking bio-clock going. LOL).
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
So UCGal, you’re saying here that ten years ago, your now husband was 50+?, had no children and had just married (or was engaged) to you?I take it he isn’t from SD but this doesn’t matter. This just fuels my hypothesis that there are MANY 50+ men out there who are seeking to find a spouse ASAP and begin an “immediate” family!
Pls correct me if I missed something… ;=][/quote]
He was 48 when we met and married, 49 when we had our first kid. He turned 50 about a month after our youngest was born.He’s not typical to the guys I dated… Most of the guys who were in their late 30’s through late 40’s that I dated prior had either already had their kids with wife #1 and didn’t want more. (which is fine). Or were NOT the type I’d want to have kids with, even if they wanted them, because of Peter Pan syndrome. I don’t think my husband represents a broad stereotype… and I dated enough guys in my 30’s to say that. (I had the ticking bio-clock going. LOL).
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
So UCGal, you’re saying here that ten years ago, your now husband was 50+?, had no children and had just married (or was engaged) to you?I take it he isn’t from SD but this doesn’t matter. This just fuels my hypothesis that there are MANY 50+ men out there who are seeking to find a spouse ASAP and begin an “immediate” family!
Pls correct me if I missed something… ;=][/quote]
He was 48 when we met and married, 49 when we had our first kid. He turned 50 about a month after our youngest was born.He’s not typical to the guys I dated… Most of the guys who were in their late 30’s through late 40’s that I dated prior had either already had their kids with wife #1 and didn’t want more. (which is fine). Or were NOT the type I’d want to have kids with, even if they wanted them, because of Peter Pan syndrome. I don’t think my husband represents a broad stereotype… and I dated enough guys in my 30’s to say that. (I had the ticking bio-clock going. LOL).
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
So UCGal, you’re saying here that ten years ago, your now husband was 50+?, had no children and had just married (or was engaged) to you?I take it he isn’t from SD but this doesn’t matter. This just fuels my hypothesis that there are MANY 50+ men out there who are seeking to find a spouse ASAP and begin an “immediate” family!
Pls correct me if I missed something… ;=][/quote]
He was 48 when we met and married, 49 when we had our first kid. He turned 50 about a month after our youngest was born.He’s not typical to the guys I dated… Most of the guys who were in their late 30’s through late 40’s that I dated prior had either already had their kids with wife #1 and didn’t want more. (which is fine). Or were NOT the type I’d want to have kids with, even if they wanted them, because of Peter Pan syndrome. I don’t think my husband represents a broad stereotype… and I dated enough guys in my 30’s to say that. (I had the ticking bio-clock going. LOL).
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
So UCGal, you’re saying here that ten years ago, your now husband was 50+?, had no children and had just married (or was engaged) to you?I take it he isn’t from SD but this doesn’t matter. This just fuels my hypothesis that there are MANY 50+ men out there who are seeking to find a spouse ASAP and begin an “immediate” family!
Pls correct me if I missed something… ;=][/quote]
He was 48 when we met and married, 49 when we had our first kid. He turned 50 about a month after our youngest was born.He’s not typical to the guys I dated… Most of the guys who were in their late 30’s through late 40’s that I dated prior had either already had their kids with wife #1 and didn’t want more. (which is fine). Or were NOT the type I’d want to have kids with, even if they wanted them, because of Peter Pan syndrome. I don’t think my husband represents a broad stereotype… and I dated enough guys in my 30’s to say that. (I had the ticking bio-clock going. LOL).
Participant[quote=patb][quote=UCGal]
I’m active on a “mom’s message board”… It’s about 70 women who all have kids born the same month/year… from 4 different countries.
On that board the number of families with 4 or more kids is greater than the number of families with just 1 child. So… based on this VERY limited data source (so really useless….[/quote]
selection bias.
It’s a group of women who want to be moms and want to have kids and
want to hang out with other moms.The census numbers are very straightforward.
How about the tons of women who just aren’t marrying
or the ones not having kids.[/quote]
I agree it’s selection bias. I think I even pointed it out.Participant[quote=patb][quote=UCGal]
I’m active on a “mom’s message board”… It’s about 70 women who all have kids born the same month/year… from 4 different countries.
On that board the number of families with 4 or more kids is greater than the number of families with just 1 child. So… based on this VERY limited data source (so really useless….[/quote]
selection bias.
It’s a group of women who want to be moms and want to have kids and
want to hang out with other moms.The census numbers are very straightforward.
How about the tons of women who just aren’t marrying
or the ones not having kids.[/quote]
I agree it’s selection bias. I think I even pointed it out. -
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