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ParticipantBut I earned this money. I already paid taxes on this money. And I’ll be damned if te government tells me what I can do with it upon my death.
You have a very healthy sense of entitlement fat_lazy guy. No doubt you’ve been supporting yourself sincy you came out of the womb. You probably also never used a public highway and funded your very own personal police force and military. I bet you personally paid for private education while growing up also. Yep, no doubt you earned all that money and would have done just as well in the 1960’s Soviet Union as you have done in the modern United States.
In case you’re not getting my point, every U.S. citizen benefits simply by being born in the U.S. The richest have benefitted the most and should pay the most in taxes. If you don’t like the U.S. tax system, then renounce your citizenship and move someplace that will better respect your monies.
I’m not about to shed a tear for the rich when the second-richest person in the United States pays a lower tax rate than his secretary.
ParticipantMore of us will have to want those jobs first for ourselves or our kids to put a counter pressure to the business and immigrant lobbies.
Actually, native-born Americans constitute around 80% of the work force in those supposed “jobs that Americans won’t do.”
ParticipantMore of us will have to want those jobs first for ourselves or our kids to put a counter pressure to the business and immigrant lobbies.
Actually, native-born Americans constitute around 80% of the work force in those supposed “jobs that Americans won’t do.”
ParticipantThe US could stop illegal immigration tomorrow if it wanted to. We went to the moon, don’t tell me we can’t build a fence stretching from TJ to Matamoros. But we won’t stop it because the business interests that control this country don’t want it stopped.
So, so true. A state-of-the-art fence running along the entire 2,000 mile border would probalby only cost $8 billion. That’s nothing! I believe we are on track to spend over $100 billion on the Iraq debacle this year alone. $8 billion to help stop illegal immigration is an absolute pittance.
ParticipantThe US could stop illegal immigration tomorrow if it wanted to. We went to the moon, don’t tell me we can’t build a fence stretching from TJ to Matamoros. But we won’t stop it because the business interests that control this country don’t want it stopped.
So, so true. A state-of-the-art fence running along the entire 2,000 mile border would probalby only cost $8 billion. That’s nothing! I believe we are on track to spend over $100 billion on the Iraq debacle this year alone. $8 billion to help stop illegal immigration is an absolute pittance.
ParticipantBesides, if they aren’t going to pick the strawberries you eat, who will? You wanna pay $10/lb for strawberries when farmers hire unionized ex-UAW to pick the fields??????
The way I see it, the real price of strawberries isn’t the price you pay at the store. The real price would take into account the cost of unemployment benefits and welfare of the displaced native-born U.S. citizen who won’t pick strawberries for $3/hr or whatever a Mexican will do it for. Plus, you need to take into account the cost of subsidized shool lunches for children of illegal immigrants. Plus, trips to the emergency room for the illegal immigrants. Plus the cost of overcrowded schools.
I see this bill as a way for rich business owners and farmers to push more of their true costs onto the taxpayers. Instead of ponying up for healthcare and fair wages for their workers, rich business folk push those costs on to taxpayers who make up the difference between what the a-hole, money-hording business owner is paying and what constitutes a livable wage in this country.
I would have no problem with strawberries going up to $10/lb or $20/lb or whatever it would take to get an American worker to pick them because then I could stop subsidizing the wealth of rich farmers and business folk through my taxes. People who actually eat strawberries would be paying their true costs which is the way it should be.
Actually, I agree with a couple of previous posters. Strawberries and other produce would probably only go up a couple of bucks a pound if native-born citizens were hired to pick them. This increase in price would spur innovation and then someone would eventually invent a machine that picks strawberries cheaper than any person could.
ParticipantBesides, if they aren’t going to pick the strawberries you eat, who will? You wanna pay $10/lb for strawberries when farmers hire unionized ex-UAW to pick the fields??????
The way I see it, the real price of strawberries isn’t the price you pay at the store. The real price would take into account the cost of unemployment benefits and welfare of the displaced native-born U.S. citizen who won’t pick strawberries for $3/hr or whatever a Mexican will do it for. Plus, you need to take into account the cost of subsidized shool lunches for children of illegal immigrants. Plus, trips to the emergency room for the illegal immigrants. Plus the cost of overcrowded schools.
I see this bill as a way for rich business owners and farmers to push more of their true costs onto the taxpayers. Instead of ponying up for healthcare and fair wages for their workers, rich business folk push those costs on to taxpayers who make up the difference between what the a-hole, money-hording business owner is paying and what constitutes a livable wage in this country.
I would have no problem with strawberries going up to $10/lb or $20/lb or whatever it would take to get an American worker to pick them because then I could stop subsidizing the wealth of rich farmers and business folk through my taxes. People who actually eat strawberries would be paying their true costs which is the way it should be.
Actually, I agree with a couple of previous posters. Strawberries and other produce would probably only go up a couple of bucks a pound if native-born citizens were hired to pick them. This increase in price would spur innovation and then someone would eventually invent a machine that picks strawberries cheaper than any person could.
ParticipantI would impeach Bush on Iraq but give him credit for doing the right thing on immigration. That shows you how opposites differ but might become bedfellows to achieve a common goal. 🙂
jg and PerryChase secret bedfellows? Sounds like a love match made in heaven. 🙂
ParticipantI would impeach Bush on Iraq but give him credit for doing the right thing on immigration. That shows you how opposites differ but might become bedfellows to achieve a common goal. 🙂
jg and PerryChase secret bedfellows? Sounds like a love match made in heaven. 🙂
ParticipantI’m confused. They couldn’t sell the house for $1 million at the trustee sale but were able to sell it for $1.3-$1.4 million at a later date. How does that work?
Participant“Universities are different; largerly confused girly men and manly girls running things (did you see the course offerings in the VT English Department; what a charade).
Breeze, LoB did his duty in the toughest of the service branches (I was in the girly service, the Navy). Get a move on, Breeze, I think that you’re running late for your manicure.”
jagoff, I’m beginning to see why you always vote Republican. You have the mentality of a two-year old.
So you weren’t intelligent enough to get into university, eh? I must say I’m not surprised.
Are you so insecure that you feel the need to boast about how brave you would be under gunfire? Generally, I’ve found in life that really brave people don’t spend a lot of time boasting about their bravery – especially on an Internet message board.
The next time you hear gunfire, make sure that you take off running directly towards it. Somehow, I doubt that will happen. More likely, you’ll be one of the first ducking for cover.
Participant“Now I fully expect all of the “Ivory Tower pansy’s” out there will attack me and call me a “John Wayne” fighting dude,… you couldnt be further from the truth, I would hate to be thrust into a situation like that last week, but I’ll be damned if I would let some little punk kill me or others like scared rabbits.”
You’re pretty brave on the Interweb.
Participant“Honestly, now, does anyone really believe they’re more safe, free and protected by having high-school students and college students all armed?”
That’s crazy talk. Just because you give people the right to have guns doesn’t mean that everyone would be carrying one. I’m all for concealed carry laws. If a non-felon, non-psycho, with no drug or alcohol convictions wants to carry a gun, then that person should be allowed to do it.
Personally, I don’t own any guns, but that is just because I don’t feel personally qualified to carry one. I’d probably be more at risk with a gun — I’d probably end up shooting myself in the foot or something. But people who feel they can handle a gun and have a clean past should be allowed to own them and they should also be allowed to carry them on their person.
Just imagine if a few of those Virginia Tech students had been armed. It might have only been a few people that were killed instead of 32.
I doubt that gun regulations would have stopped the crazy Va. tech guy. I heard he bought his guns in October, so I imagine he would have found a way to obtain his guns no matter what. This wasn’t some spur of the moment thing that could have been stopped with some 5-day waiting law.
As for high-school students having guns, I agree with you. There probably isn’t enough maturity at that age to use a gun responsibly. However, there again, any ban on guns in high schools (unless students have to go through metal detectors) is only going to stop people that obey the ban. The bad guys that want to get guns in school won’t be stopped by a simple ban.
April 15, 2007 at 10:17 AM in reply to: Surprisingly good article on money.cnn.com on the bialout debacle #50147ParticipantWhat’s so ridiculous about these bailout proposals is that most of these subprime borrowers can afford to live somewhere, they just can’t afford to live in the huge house or within the ritzy neighborhood they bought into. Subsidizing subprime borrowers who bought $600K homes would be outrageous. These people can afford a smaller house or to rent a place on their own. They don’t need subsidies.
Plus, I fear that most of any bailout would go to those who committed fraud on the way up and used subprime to buy multiple homes. People like Casey Serrin who committed fraud on the way up to buy multiple houses will also commit fraud on the government to get bailed out of their multiple mortgages.
Plus, I believe that most of these subprime borrowers were just speculators. I read somewhere that the home ownership rate only increased from 68% to 70% from 2003 to 2007. That means that most of this bubble was caused by speculators who used subprime to buy multiple houses. Don’t believe for a second that most of these subprime borrowers are poor families who will get thrown onto the street. Nope, most of them are speculators like Casey Serrin who choose not to work because they fashion themselves as the next Donald Trump.
I wish the media would tell that side of the story and stop focussing on that relatively small percentage of borrowers who have somewhat sob stories. (And even those folks can usually afford to live in an apartment).
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