[temeculaguy]

Don’t just take advice from parents get the numbers. There is a wealth of info available on the state’s website, here is a snapshot link

http://star.cde.ca.gov/star2006/viewreport.asp

And the link at the top left takes you to the school accountability home where you can get api, college acceptance rates for high schools, demographic data of students, economic data of students, etc. I have known people who put their kid in a private school and warned me about a school but I knew their kid and that kid was an idiot and a troublemaker. So take advice with a grain of salt, look into the facts and visit the school in person while students are there.

Doublewide, you are killing me, the same no offense intended, it’s all in good fun:

Lets see, You moved to Temecula and didn’t put your kid in the schools, that’s like going to Hawaii and avoiding the beach, it’s the primary reason people live here. And friends in Sabre springs send their kids to private school, another McFly move, creekside elementary in Sabre Springs in one of the best in the State, few public schools are competative with private schools but that is one of them. Some neighborhoods in the Poway district are priced higher because of the school, why pay the premium and not utilize it, what’s next, eating Taco Bell in Puerta Vallarta, Pizza Hut in Chicago, Bottled municipal Los Angeles water in the Sierras, always take advantage of what the local area does best. Oh yeah I have met lots of people who hate drinking and gambling, they like to go to Vegas for the weather, scenery and sweet aromas in the casinos.

[temeculaguy]

Don’t just take advice from parents get the numbers. There is a wealth of info available on the state’s website, here is a snapshot link

http://star.cde.ca.gov/star2006/viewreport.asp

And the link at the top left takes you to the school accountability home where you can get api, college acceptance rates for high schools, demographic data of students, economic data of students, etc. I have known people who put their kid in a private school and warned me about a school but I knew their kid and that kid was an idiot and a troublemaker. So take advice with a grain of salt, look into the facts and visit the school in person while students are there.

Doublewide, you are killing me, the same no offense intended, it’s all in good fun:

Lets see, You moved to Temecula and didn’t put your kid in the schools, that’s like going to Hawaii and avoiding the beach, it’s the primary reason people live here. And friends in Sabre springs send their kids to private school, another McFly move, creekside elementary in Sabre Springs in one of the best in the State, few public schools are competative with private schools but that is one of them. Some neighborhoods in the Poway district are priced higher because of the school, why pay the premium and not utilize it, what’s next, eating Taco Bell in Puerta Vallarta, Pizza Hut in Chicago, Bottled municipal Los Angeles water in the Sierras, always take advantage of what the local area does best. Oh yeah I have met lots of people who hate drinking and gambling, they like to go to Vegas for the weather, scenery and sweet aromas in the casinos.

[temeculaguy]

Don’t just take advice from parents get the numbers. There is a wealth of info available on the state’s website, here is a snapshot link

http://star.cde.ca.gov/star2006/viewreport.asp

And the link at the top left takes you to the school accountability home where you can get api, college acceptance rates for high schools, demographic data of students, economic data of students, etc. I have known people who put their kid in a private school and warned me about a school but I knew their kid and that kid was an idiot and a troublemaker. So take advice with a grain of salt, look into the facts and visit the school in person while students are there.

Doublewide, you are killing me, the same no offense intended, it’s all in good fun:

Lets see, You moved to Temecula and didn’t put your kid in the schools, that’s like going to Hawaii and avoiding the beach, it’s the primary reason people live here. And friends in Sabre springs send their kids to private school, another McFly move, creekside elementary in Sabre Springs in one of the best in the State, few public schools are competative with private schools but that is one of them. Some neighborhoods in the Poway district are priced higher because of the school, why pay the premium and not utilize it, what’s next, eating Taco Bell in Puerta Vallarta, Pizza Hut in Chicago, Bottled municipal Los Angeles water in the Sierras, always take advantage of what the local area does best. Oh yeah I have met lots of people who hate drinking and gambling, they like to go to Vegas for the weather, scenery and sweet aromas in the casinos.

[temeculaguy]

The one across the street is a model match and has been sitting for 174 days, so 449k is probably not the right price. Once again comparing things to what others are not selling at isn’t a very good way to arrive at a price.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=538909

Compared to the one for auction but looking at the sattelite photo the auction house has absolutely no backyard and probably isn’t in that great of condition. The one at 449 does have a bit more yard.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-property?external_id=6359840

The other houses nearby have very long days on market so please do go to the auction and tell us what it goes for. I am going to guess 370k.

[temeculaguy]

The one across the street is a model match and has been sitting for 174 days, so 449k is probably not the right price. Once again comparing things to what others are not selling at isn’t a very good way to arrive at a price.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=538909

Compared to the one for auction but looking at the sattelite photo the auction house has absolutely no backyard and probably isn’t in that great of condition. The one at 449 does have a bit more yard.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-property?external_id=6359840

The other houses nearby have very long days on market so please do go to the auction and tell us what it goes for. I am going to guess 370k.

[temeculaguy]

The one across the street is a model match and has been sitting for 174 days, so 449k is probably not the right price. Once again comparing things to what others are not selling at isn’t a very good way to arrive at a price.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-listing?listing-id=538909

Compared to the one for auction but looking at the sattelite photo the auction house has absolutely no backyard and probably isn’t in that great of condition. The one at 449 does have a bit more yard.

http://www.redfin.com/stingray/do/printable-property?external_id=6359840

The other houses nearby have very long days on market so please do go to the auction and tell us what it goes for. I am going to guess 370k.

[temeculaguy]

The first move they usually make is to redo the specs, cut costs in conjuntion with price cuts. I’ve seen it in past cycles and last week I visited development that had opened and had abysmal sales initially and was cutting specs and prices. It doesn’t require any plan or permit changes because all of the changes are on the inside. The builder I visited is dropping everything it was including(granite, stainless steel, nice fixtures, wiring, nice cabinet choicess). They make them as cheap as they can and slash the hell out of the price in order to go after a different client pool and it seems to be working for them. Another strategy that Lennar took was to include every option imaginable for free. It’s still all smoke and mirrors, One way they cut prices 100k but by cutting the specs the real cut is only 50k, the other way it looks like you get 100k in freebies but it only costs them 50K.

Regarding the fear of them throwing in condos or small houses, I don’t know if that will be the trend, the starter homes generally attract a larger sub prime/ alt a clientele, not really what they want to be chasing right now.

[temeculaguy]

The first move they usually make is to redo the specs, cut costs in conjuntion with price cuts. I’ve seen it in past cycles and last week I visited development that had opened and had abysmal sales initially and was cutting specs and prices. It doesn’t require any plan or permit changes because all of the changes are on the inside. The builder I visited is dropping everything it was including(granite, stainless steel, nice fixtures, wiring, nice cabinet choicess). They make them as cheap as they can and slash the hell out of the price in order to go after a different client pool and it seems to be working for them. Another strategy that Lennar took was to include every option imaginable for free. It’s still all smoke and mirrors, One way they cut prices 100k but by cutting the specs the real cut is only 50k, the other way it looks like you get 100k in freebies but it only costs them 50K.

Regarding the fear of them throwing in condos or small houses, I don’t know if that will be the trend, the starter homes generally attract a larger sub prime/ alt a clientele, not really what they want to be chasing right now.

[temeculaguy]

The first move they usually make is to redo the specs, cut costs in conjuntion with price cuts. I’ve seen it in past cycles and last week I visited development that had opened and had abysmal sales initially and was cutting specs and prices. It doesn’t require any plan or permit changes because all of the changes are on the inside. The builder I visited is dropping everything it was including(granite, stainless steel, nice fixtures, wiring, nice cabinet choicess). They make them as cheap as they can and slash the hell out of the price in order to go after a different client pool and it seems to be working for them. Another strategy that Lennar took was to include every option imaginable for free. It’s still all smoke and mirrors, One way they cut prices 100k but by cutting the specs the real cut is only 50k, the other way it looks like you get 100k in freebies but it only costs them 50K.

Regarding the fear of them throwing in condos or small houses, I don’t know if that will be the trend, the starter homes generally attract a larger sub prime/ alt a clientele, not really what they want to be chasing right now.

[temeculaguy]

When this thread first came up I was going to tell you that expecting 50% nominal is too much across the board but there will be specific examples. A day later I read the posts and have to concur with Perry, “When Bugs talks, I listen.” Bugs is not an uberbear and this is not what I would have expected him to say two months ago. I have seen some strange clouds forming lately, have been through storms before but have never seen clouds like this. So I’ll lock in my vote at 30% across the board and 50% examples based on the area, year built and density of toxic mortgages in a given tract. And I think we will see evidence of those 50% drops within 24 months. The reason I think the time frame will be faster than ever before is because of the internet. It has become the primary information source for the buying demographic and it’s too difficult to control. In past downturns, all of the information was controlled by people with a vested interest in the market. The game is different, the rules are different and the results will be different. Of course if I’m wrong I can always blame it on Bugs, Perry and the rest of you.

[temeculaguy]

When this thread first came up I was going to tell you that expecting 50% nominal is too much across the board but there will be specific examples. A day later I read the posts and have to concur with Perry, “When Bugs talks, I listen.” Bugs is not an uberbear and this is not what I would have expected him to say two months ago. I have seen some strange clouds forming lately, have been through storms before but have never seen clouds like this. So I’ll lock in my vote at 30% across the board and 50% examples based on the area, year built and density of toxic mortgages in a given tract. And I think we will see evidence of those 50% drops within 24 months. The reason I think the time frame will be faster than ever before is because of the internet. It has become the primary information source for the buying demographic and it’s too difficult to control. In past downturns, all of the information was controlled by people with a vested interest in the market. The game is different, the rules are different and the results will be different. Of course if I’m wrong I can always blame it on Bugs, Perry and the rest of you.

[temeculaguy]

When this thread first came up I was going to tell you that expecting 50% nominal is too much across the board but there will be specific examples. A day later I read the posts and have to concur with Perry, “When Bugs talks, I listen.” Bugs is not an uberbear and this is not what I would have expected him to say two months ago. I have seen some strange clouds forming lately, have been through storms before but have never seen clouds like this. So I’ll lock in my vote at 30% across the board and 50% examples based on the area, year built and density of toxic mortgages in a given tract. And I think we will see evidence of those 50% drops within 24 months. The reason I think the time frame will be faster than ever before is because of the internet. It has become the primary information source for the buying demographic and it’s too difficult to control. In past downturns, all of the information was controlled by people with a vested interest in the market. The game is different, the rules are different and the results will be different. Of course if I’m wrong I can always blame it on Bugs, Perry and the rest of you.

[temeculaguy]

And the new undisputed champion of the world is….Critter!

[temeculaguy]

And the new undisputed champion of the world is….Critter!

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And the new undisputed champion of the world is….Critter!

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