Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
svelteParticipant[quote=svelte]
So…I must admit I too have adjusted a few things now. I’ve canceled all flights to other states, and have switched travel within California to be by car not plane.That’s all I’ve done so far. No stocking up on food or toilet paper. Yet.[/quote]
Finally caved. Canceled all trips within California tonight.
Nothing on my calendar as far as the eye can see.
Feels very strange. Maybe I’ll take up meditation.
svelteParticipantHere is a nice summary of the world situation:
svelteParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]
My point was that the 1% death rate is very, very overblown because they are only testing people who are severely afflicted.
[/quote]
That thought crossed my mind too.
It could be that if you have severe symptoms, you have a 1% chance of dying…not a 1%$ chance if you get coronavirus.
I’m still not sure what I think about this situation.
svelteParticipant[quote=Myriad][quote=PCinSD][quote=Myriad]
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-cut-cdcs-budget-democrats-claim-analysis/story?id=69233170
I may have gotten ahead of myself on the actual budget cuts. Most of them are proposed by the administration but overruled by Congress.
But in general, the administration has been doing everything in the Executive Branch’s power to attack agencies that are not pro-business/pro-Trump, etc. Actions include not fill positions, when filling positions, adding political appointees with no relevant experience, overruling experts, etc.[/quote]Huh. Imagine that. Yet you threw it out there as fact. Why is that? Where did you get the info from that made you feel comfortable enough to believe it, and claim it here?
Just curious. Fox News?[/quote]
I take back my earlier statement. The Trump administration did cut funding. Not sure why I couldn’t find it over the weekend.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-cuts-programs-responsible-for-fighting-coronavirus-2020-2
https://fortune.com/2020/02/26/coronavirus-covid-19-cdc-budget-cuts-us-trump/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/31/us-coronavirus-budget-cuts-trump-underprepared
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-to-scale-back-work-in-dozens-of-foreign-countries-amid-funding-worries-1516398717I want to government to spend wisely too, but cutting discretionary funds for health isn’t going to do anything for the budget deficit. The biggest spending is in Medicare, SS, and Defense.[/quote]
More damning evidence. Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit.
svelteParticipant[quote=ltsddd][quote=Hobie]Thanks for the doom and gloom, double “d”[/quote]
lol. inspired by flu, an and real, I was messing around with my username and now I can’t have it back.
Back to the topic. Why don’t you share what’s your narrative is if you disagreed with others’?[/quote]
He already has. He thinks coronavirus is no worse than the common flu. See his previous posts in this thread.
svelteParticipant[quote=sdduuuude]Have you heard of the Quarantini ?
.[/quote]We went to see a band last night, our last outing for the foreseeable future.
They introduced themselves as the “COVID-19s” and said the bartender was serving quarantinis.
Everyone laughed, but there were only about 10 customers watching the band. The staff was wiping down everything as soon as anyone moved to a different spot. The whole place smelled like bleach. On a typical night, there would be 75-100 people in that room. People are starting to self isolate. If you’re not a grocery store, pharmacy or gas station you might as well close for the next few weeks.
svelteParticipant[quote=Hobie][quote=sdduuuude]Have you heard of the Quarantini ?
[/quote]We’ll probably see a spike in births 9mo from now too. ha[/quote]
They’ll be Corona babies!
Maybe in more ways that one…
svelteParticipant[quote=Coronita]
Ironically during this time, a lot of college students and substitute teachers have been advertising “hi, I’m XYZ, and if you need help with daycare, I can watch your children for you .. .” And then proceed to say they can take up to 5-10 kids at their house.
[/quote]Some of my friends on FB have been posting that!
I bet they don’t get many if any takers.
One of them posted yesterday “I’m sick of hearing about coronavirus! Stop posting about it!” yet she’s the one who posted like 50 times on the topic over the last three days. Sheesh.
svelteParticipant[quote=Coronita]https://nypost.com/2020/03/14/bernie-bros-warn-of-massive-exodus-if-democrats-nominate-joe-biden/
I don’t understand the logic here. If Joe gets the nomination versus Bernie, Bernie people rather have Trump in office versus Joe.
What’s wrong with people?
Makes no sense.
[/quote]Well. One could make the same argument about me saying I’d rather vote 3rd party than for Sanders. In essence, that would be giving the race to the incumbent.
svelteParticipant[quote=spdrun][quote=svelte][quote=spdrun] If you have high blood pressure as a 35 year old, you likely have much lower chance of dying than 6%. [/quote]
Please point me to the data that supports this statement for those with coronavirus.[/quote]
This data came from an observations that were also not controlled for age or other factors.
[/quote]
Nowhere in that link does it say that having high blood pressure at 35 is much lower than 6%. Nowhere.
Here are some direct quotes from that link and the links at that link:
“The risk of high blood pressure increases as patients get older.”
This in no way says that a 35 yo with HBP is at less risk. It just says that you’re at more risk to get HBP as you get older.
“Edwards also noted that in most patients, based on available data, symptoms tend to be mild, especially among younger people.”
While it is unclear, this does not appear to be referring to those with HBP and coronavirus, but those with coronavirus.
“Of a group of 170 patients who died in January in Wuhan — the first wave of casualties caused by a pathogen that’s now raced around the world — nearly half had hypertension.”
Since more than half that died had hypertension, those were predominately older because that is the age group that died and because those are the people that tend to have hypertension.
Now let me point you to something that tends to give a reason why coronavirus tends to hit those with HBP, and this reason appears to be independent of age:
“People with high blood pressure and diabetes could be at higher risk of severe or fatal coronavirus symptoms because of how their medicines work, scientists say.
Drugs called ACE inhibitors and angiotensin receptor blockers may change the shape of someone’s cells in a way that makes it easier for the coronavirus to infect them and cause a more severe illness.”
The quote above is independent of age – ACE inhibitors change cells in a way that makes them more receptive to coronavirus.
“They found that the most common illnesses among severely-ill coronavirus patients were high blood pressure (23.7 per cent), diabetes (16.2 per cent) and heart disease (5.8 per cent).
And by studying how the coronavirus and SARS, which is almost identical, attach to cells inside people’s bodies they came up with a theory of how the blood pressure drugs might make this easier for the viruses.”
Neither of us will be able to prove our position until many more studies are done. But it is premature to say that HBP is more of a problem with the elderly.
svelteParticipant[quote=spdrun] If you have high blood pressure as a 35 year old, you likely have much lower chance of dying than 6%. [/quote]
Please point me to the data that supports this statement for those with coronavirus.
svelteParticipant[quote=svelte][quote=flu]I have my gold bullion bars in my safe along with my Glock, and respirators for painting cars that should filter viruses too. I have a few vegetables in the backyard and bags of rice.
Did I miss anything else I should stock up on?
:)[/quote]
Toilet paper.
I’ve worked at grocery stores before. First thing to go!
[/quote]
After this week, this almost sounds prophetic. 🙂
svelteParticipantI’m not on either end of the spectrum – I’m not saying it is no worse than the flu, but I’m also not saying we’re all gonna die.
Reality is somewhere in between.
Unfortunately, we probably won’t know exactly where in between until it is all over.
And that is why there is panic setting in.
svelteParticipant[quote=Hobie]
Percentages have a place but it would be good to see the actual numbers too, if you please.[/quote]You got it. I tried to find numbers no more than a day old.
[img_assist|nid=26988|title=US Coronavirus By Date|desc=|link=node|align=center|width=466|height=301]
[img_assist|nid=26989|title=March 14 2020 US Coronavirus By State|desc=|link=node|align=center|width=466|height=61]
[img_assist|nid=26990|title=Mar 14, 2020 Europe Coronavirus By Country|desc=|link=node|align=center|width=466|height=365]
[img_assist|nid=26991|title=Mar 14, 2020 Coronavirus Deaths Worldwide|desc=|link=node|align=center|width=466|height=365]
-
AuthorPosts