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[quote=Coronita] We aren’t out of the woods yet so we will see. Knock on wood.
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I agree…we’ve just been through round 1. The only thing keeping the market up is people being afraid of missing out on the upside and interest rates being so low there is nowhere else to make money. Neither of those is a good reason to buy stocks.

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And the only reason why my portfolio looks good is because in my trading account, I regularly move in and out of positions, which while normally underperforms indexes in the past,.in the current volatile environment has worked out well. How long it lasts, who knows, but I did a few weeks ago swear I was going to sit out the rest of the year….only to reenter a small position when the Dow fell back to 25k…..Now that it’s 27k again, if the 500pt futures rise hold up in the regularly trading session, I’m going be moving back into more cash.

Damn Robinhood day traders that drove Tesla to $1790/share….lol
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I have a feeling it will have to drop again also. I thought it would have done so by now, but it hasn’t.

Musk gets paid at certain dates based on stock price correct? I think that is why the stock price is so high. But how he’s been able to get folks to buy in, I have no idea. Tesla stock price is pure fantasy. I just don’t understand it.

I think when all is said and done, someone is going to find they cooked their books somehow. I could be wrong, but that is what my instinct is telling me.

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Anyway, folks doing well, count your blessings and give thanks …and try to help those around you that might not be so lucky… You never know what tomorrow brings…[/quote]

Nice thoughts flu, and a very needed reminder right now. Patience is running very thin I’ve noticed in general.

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Wow, we’re all doing well! Beating the indexes!

Can’t sneeze at that.

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My 401K company keeps sending me nastygrams that I’m not diversified enough.

I just checked my 401K – I’m up 1% for the year! While the SP500 is down a hair. That’s with 20% of my money in a stable fund.

I don’t think I’m doing too bad. It would be interesting to see how I would have been had I followed their fund recommendations…bet I would still be down.

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[quote=spdrun]I heard a rumor that a significant percentage of the superstructure is a light aluminium-magnesium alloy, and that the metal itself is on fire. (Real bitch to put out, since it burns hot enough to split water into hydrogen and oxygen.)
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I saw a Youtube video of the superstructure last night – I was shocked to see that it had toppled into an ugly pile of scrap metal.

Now I know why, thanks to your post!

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[quote=spdrun]I disagree … look how many people lived in San Francisco proper and commuted to tech jobs in the suburbs south of the city. Remember the furor over tech buses? People who live in cities, want to live in cities for the most part.[/quote]

My son lives in SF and just quit his job to move his family out of the bay area. !!!

He is braver than I.

I think a major contributor to this new direction in his life – and I suspect in many 20- and 30-somethings – is the desire to start a family, have a private back yard no shared walls. He used to dismiss those things when I mentioned them to him before, but now he salivates when he talks about friends who have them.

He’s also shopping for a minivan. Minivan! Never even been on his radar before.

Time they are a’changin my friend.

Cities aren’t going to die – they’ll just thin out a bit. With or without COVID.

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[quote=Hobie]I think spraying the exterior is to keep the steel cool to preserve its structural integrity.[/quote]

I guess that makes sense. If you can’t put out the fire, at least save the structure.

I was also confused by the statement this may burn down to the waterline. Why wouldn’t it go below that? Is the equipment below the waterline too cool to burn?

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Now is probably a good time to remind everyone to double and triple check the correct routing numbers before wiring money. Call the recipient via numbers you’ve obtained outside of the email to ensure wiring instructions are correct. Make sure they’ve received the money once you’ve sent it. I’ve been reading more reports of fraudulent addresses being sent via email resulting in large sums of money disappearing. Here is an example from today:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/12/us/ray-hushpuppi-alleged-money-laundering-trnd/index.html

“Federal documents detailed how a paralegal at a New York law firm wired nearly $923,000 meant for a client’s real estate refinancing to a bank account controlled by Abbas and his co-conspirators. The paralegal had received fraudulent wire instructions after sending an email to what appeared to be a bank email address but was later identified as a “spoofed” email address, the affidavit said.”

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They are probably swamped right now with rates that low.

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It warmed my heart to see the attendance at the Tulsa rally was about 1/3 capacity (1/300 or less would have been better though). The good people of that area are way smarter than this president. I was worried that that wasn’t true.[/quote]

Tulsa is one of the more liberal areas of OK, which makes it even more puzzling that DJT chose that for his “rally”.
Tulsa has a strong LGBT community. Other areas with a higher open mindedness are Norman (with a large college population due to OU) and Stillwater (large college population due to OSU). Otherwise OK is very, very republican.

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I just want to say thank you all for being here and contributing to these conversations.

Deep, polite, thoughtful conversations are all too rare on the internet now.

Thanks Rich for making this possible.

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[quote=scaredyclassic] Keep an open mind[/quote]

I will.

I am a very accepting person.

Season 3.

A few years ago I became addicted to a British show called The Detectorists. It was a show deeper than the surface topic (as is Shtisel) and when the show ended after season 2, I felt empty.

Then it was picked up for a third season under different management and I waited eagerly. Unfortunately, that season was crap. I wish they hadn’t made it.

I guess what I’m trying to say is be cautiously optimistic about third seasons.

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Friend of a friend of mine was a big trump supporter. Went to Arizona to attend a party in the middle of their outbreak. Got COVID. Died. Left behind his two daughters.

It appears that they actually believe the propaganda deep down. That guy certainly seems to have.[/quote]

I’m sorry to hear that. Particularly for the daughters.

Otherwise I’d just say he made his decisions.

I struggle with how much to be sympathetic on many topics – especially those in the news this year – and how much to be indifferent. I still feel like I don’t have myself tuned correctly yet.

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I have watched a few episodes of it now, and I’ll continue watching at least a bit more.

In the first 30 seconds, I knew my wife would not join me – it has subtitles. She won’t watch shows with subtitles because it causes her anxiety – the words might disappear before she’s read them. So it’s just me on this one.

The show is very well written. The character development so far is outstanding as are the backdrops. I’ve grown attached to Akiva already. I was full of hope for him to develop a relationship with Elisheva. Then he popped the question to [redacted in case someone else is not as far along as I]. WTF? She’s very sweet but I know he’ going to break her heart…he was way premature on that…I can see the heartbreak coming. It makes me mad at Akiva and he hasn’t even done it yet.

So far I’m up to the point where he runs down the street after dark to the phone booth where Elisheva called from. Now the question is do they keep this widow-Akiva tension going for years (ala Moonlighting) or do they get them together? I shall find out soon enough…

Believe it or not, I didn’t meet a Jewish person until I was about 30 – or if I did they didn’t make it apparent. Most of the little burgs I grew up in didn’t have a synagogue (I just checked, still don’t). I met my first Jewish person at my employer in San Diego. Hell, I didn’t even have a bagel until we arrived in San Diego and the welcome to town basket had a package of bagels in it!

Jewish people intrigue me. I now have a few as fairly close friends and I’ve found them to be warm and open. Shtisel started me thinking around Jerusalem so I “walked” many of the streets in Google Street View this week.

Being non-religious, the one frustrating part of the show is to watch so many people devote so much of their time and energy to religion, which I consider to be a myth. How much further could mankind get if all that energy and brainpower was used to advance medicine or science?

But it’s enjoyable and so long as it doesn’t become a major soap opera (and it might) i will probably continue watching. Too bad about the subtitles because I think my wife would have enjoyed it also.

Oh and one more thing. Giti’s husband is a pig. Makes me mad at males…

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You can tell you’re a lawyer, scaredy – you can sell anything!

I tend to dislike background noise, whether it be a road, train, or other. I like nice quiet morning where all I hear are birds. And I have that at my house.

On the other hand, if I’m just visiting (hotel, etc) highway noise is just fine and actually acts as white noise to help me sleep.

Trains. My son’s first college apt was right up against RR tracks. I remember the first time we visited. it was like that scene in Blues Brothers where the entire apt shook. He saw the fear in our eyes as the train went by. He and his roommates smiled and shrugged. Didn’t bother them.

To each their own.

My parents moved after I left home to a house that backed up against a highway. It was extremely noisy in their back yard. If that was OK with them, fine. But they also had a layer of filth that would cover everything in the back yard. You could clean it off and within a day or two it would be back. I believe it was tire particles and brake dust and I think studies show that to be the case in the immediate vicinity of major roadways. My mother died of cancer while living in that house. I always wonder if that would have happened had they picked another house.

When we bought our first new home, we toured the models of the development and then sat down with the agent to pick a lot. I noticed that one home was significantly more expensive than the others for no reason I could tell. I asked the agent why that was. She said because there were no homes behind it. I said, “yeah that’s because it backs up to a FOUR LANE ROAD!”. She just smiled. I think she agreed with my perspective.

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What I’d like to know is at what point do we ban people with 5 person companies from calling themselves CEOs[/quote]

Just as soon as we stop calling people addicted to social media “Influencers”[/quote]

lol agree with both these comments.

I watch youtube quite a bit come across channels that make me shake my head. They’ve put all their eggs in the YT basket. When the tide turns and interest wanes on their topic, they will have to pivot. Unfortunately, I’m not sure many of them can. Shoot, they’re not even very good at the topic they’ve chosen already!

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