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May 26, 2008 at 4:40 PM in reply to: Will rents create a price floor despite the mini rental bubble? #211671May 26, 2008 at 4:40 PM in reply to: Will rents create a price floor despite the mini rental bubble? #211698
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Participantmore rents
Rents aren’t usually susceptible to a bubble and any bubble they do enter tend to be small. The 10% overpriced sounds about right. If rent prices for a certain area enters a bubble, it is usually due to something unusual – one example would be when rents skyrocketed in the Bay area due to the Internet bubble. It proved to be temporary and when it crashed, rents went down as well.
I don’t know personally what’s going on in Orange County that would make rents go up drastically. What I have been seeing here in San Diego is that rents have been going up, because more former owners are becoming renters. While there have been buyers (former renters becoming homeowners) the trend has not been large enough to offset the former owners. As a result, there has been a larger demand for affordable rental units. As a result, those affordable units have been able to increase their prices.
Many people have assumed that as foreclosures increase, that there would be a reduction in rental prices. I have always said that this is a false assumption. What has been happening is that there is a large amount of houses empty due to foreclosures, very few people are buying them, and most people are opting to rent instead of buy. This activity has had the effect of putting pressure on rentals, allowing for price increases. Foreclosures have to be bought and converted by investors into viable rental units first and until they start doing so in huge numbers, do not expect rents to go down. While there has been some investor activity, the effect has been minimal.
My guess is that in order for rents to be decreased, you would have to see a large increase in sales first, heralding the end of the bubble bust. Or of course, the worsening of the economy. That always does the job.
May 26, 2008 at 4:40 PM in reply to: Will rents create a price floor despite the mini rental bubble? #211720surveyor
Participantmore rents
Rents aren’t usually susceptible to a bubble and any bubble they do enter tend to be small. The 10% overpriced sounds about right. If rent prices for a certain area enters a bubble, it is usually due to something unusual – one example would be when rents skyrocketed in the Bay area due to the Internet bubble. It proved to be temporary and when it crashed, rents went down as well.
I don’t know personally what’s going on in Orange County that would make rents go up drastically. What I have been seeing here in San Diego is that rents have been going up, because more former owners are becoming renters. While there have been buyers (former renters becoming homeowners) the trend has not been large enough to offset the former owners. As a result, there has been a larger demand for affordable rental units. As a result, those affordable units have been able to increase their prices.
Many people have assumed that as foreclosures increase, that there would be a reduction in rental prices. I have always said that this is a false assumption. What has been happening is that there is a large amount of houses empty due to foreclosures, very few people are buying them, and most people are opting to rent instead of buy. This activity has had the effect of putting pressure on rentals, allowing for price increases. Foreclosures have to be bought and converted by investors into viable rental units first and until they start doing so in huge numbers, do not expect rents to go down. While there has been some investor activity, the effect has been minimal.
My guess is that in order for rents to be decreased, you would have to see a large increase in sales first, heralding the end of the bubble bust. Or of course, the worsening of the economy. That always does the job.
May 26, 2008 at 4:40 PM in reply to: Will rents create a price floor despite the mini rental bubble? #211752surveyor
Participantmore rents
Rents aren’t usually susceptible to a bubble and any bubble they do enter tend to be small. The 10% overpriced sounds about right. If rent prices for a certain area enters a bubble, it is usually due to something unusual – one example would be when rents skyrocketed in the Bay area due to the Internet bubble. It proved to be temporary and when it crashed, rents went down as well.
I don’t know personally what’s going on in Orange County that would make rents go up drastically. What I have been seeing here in San Diego is that rents have been going up, because more former owners are becoming renters. While there have been buyers (former renters becoming homeowners) the trend has not been large enough to offset the former owners. As a result, there has been a larger demand for affordable rental units. As a result, those affordable units have been able to increase their prices.
Many people have assumed that as foreclosures increase, that there would be a reduction in rental prices. I have always said that this is a false assumption. What has been happening is that there is a large amount of houses empty due to foreclosures, very few people are buying them, and most people are opting to rent instead of buy. This activity has had the effect of putting pressure on rentals, allowing for price increases. Foreclosures have to be bought and converted by investors into viable rental units first and until they start doing so in huge numbers, do not expect rents to go down. While there has been some investor activity, the effect has been minimal.
My guess is that in order for rents to be decreased, you would have to see a large increase in sales first, heralding the end of the bubble bust. Or of course, the worsening of the economy. That always does the job.
surveyor
Participant“I know people that have done it.”
“What are we paying the builder for : knowhow ? knowledge how to navigate through county/city laws net, ready product that we are too lazy to put together ourselves?”
I had a hunch before, and I don’t want to seem demeaning, but it has been confirmed by your statements.
Yeah, you have no clue.
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Participant“I know people that have done it.”
“What are we paying the builder for : knowhow ? knowledge how to navigate through county/city laws net, ready product that we are too lazy to put together ourselves?”
I had a hunch before, and I don’t want to seem demeaning, but it has been confirmed by your statements.
Yeah, you have no clue.
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surveyor
Participant“I know people that have done it.”
“What are we paying the builder for : knowhow ? knowledge how to navigate through county/city laws net, ready product that we are too lazy to put together ourselves?”
I had a hunch before, and I don’t want to seem demeaning, but it has been confirmed by your statements.
Yeah, you have no clue.
π
surveyor
Participant“I know people that have done it.”
“What are we paying the builder for : knowhow ? knowledge how to navigate through county/city laws net, ready product that we are too lazy to put together ourselves?”
I had a hunch before, and I don’t want to seem demeaning, but it has been confirmed by your statements.
Yeah, you have no clue.
π
surveyor
Participant“I know people that have done it.”
“What are we paying the builder for : knowhow ? knowledge how to navigate through county/city laws net, ready product that we are too lazy to put together ourselves?”
I had a hunch before, and I don’t want to seem demeaning, but it has been confirmed by your statements.
Yeah, you have no clue.
π
surveyor
Participantwishful thinking
If you think building a house is this simple, you will be in for a rude awakening of biblical proportions when you start doing it.
I have two words for you: “development fees”. If you think that the county or city will allow you to build a house without you paying them, you’re dreaming. Also, as part of your plans, you will probably be required to install and pay for certain things like
a) Improved road
b) Sidewalk
c) Street lights
d) Drainage fees
e) Traffic fees
f) the list goes on and onWhen you go through the process, you will then be fully educated on why houses cost so much here (pre-bubble).
surveyor
Participantwishful thinking
If you think building a house is this simple, you will be in for a rude awakening of biblical proportions when you start doing it.
I have two words for you: “development fees”. If you think that the county or city will allow you to build a house without you paying them, you’re dreaming. Also, as part of your plans, you will probably be required to install and pay for certain things like
a) Improved road
b) Sidewalk
c) Street lights
d) Drainage fees
e) Traffic fees
f) the list goes on and onWhen you go through the process, you will then be fully educated on why houses cost so much here (pre-bubble).
surveyor
Participantwishful thinking
If you think building a house is this simple, you will be in for a rude awakening of biblical proportions when you start doing it.
I have two words for you: “development fees”. If you think that the county or city will allow you to build a house without you paying them, you’re dreaming. Also, as part of your plans, you will probably be required to install and pay for certain things like
a) Improved road
b) Sidewalk
c) Street lights
d) Drainage fees
e) Traffic fees
f) the list goes on and onWhen you go through the process, you will then be fully educated on why houses cost so much here (pre-bubble).
surveyor
Participantwishful thinking
If you think building a house is this simple, you will be in for a rude awakening of biblical proportions when you start doing it.
I have two words for you: “development fees”. If you think that the county or city will allow you to build a house without you paying them, you’re dreaming. Also, as part of your plans, you will probably be required to install and pay for certain things like
a) Improved road
b) Sidewalk
c) Street lights
d) Drainage fees
e) Traffic fees
f) the list goes on and onWhen you go through the process, you will then be fully educated on why houses cost so much here (pre-bubble).
surveyor
Participantwishful thinking
If you think building a house is this simple, you will be in for a rude awakening of biblical proportions when you start doing it.
I have two words for you: “development fees”. If you think that the county or city will allow you to build a house without you paying them, you’re dreaming. Also, as part of your plans, you will probably be required to install and pay for certain things like
a) Improved road
b) Sidewalk
c) Street lights
d) Drainage fees
e) Traffic fees
f) the list goes on and onWhen you go through the process, you will then be fully educated on why houses cost so much here (pre-bubble).
May 21, 2008 at 3:55 PM in reply to: Its official folks . . . SD RE YOY inventory is now shrinking. #209438surveyor
Participantnumbers
You know, a lot of times, we piggs seem to devolve our arguments to this:
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Hahahaha.
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