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October 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM in reply to: How to protect against hyperinflation and destruction of the US dollar #284003October 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM in reply to: How to protect against hyperinflation and destruction of the US dollar #284021
stockstradr
ParticipantI’m not understanding why some people on here view liquidity of holding gold as a problem?
What am I missing here?
Take my E*TRADE account, which inludes brokerage, savings, checking, retirement accounts.
I move say $10,000 from savings into brokerage. I buy $10K in gold via the ETF (Symbol: “GLD”). Wow, that took a total of sixty seconds.
Three years later. Wow, those same gold ETF shares are worth $30,000.
Oh, I need some grocery money. OK fine.
Sell a few shares of “GLD” then transfer proceeds into checking. All online. Wow, that took another sixty seconds.
Ten minutes later at the grocery store, whip out my E*TRADE ATM card and pay for groceries with dollars that were gold only twenty minutes ago.
I don’t see the problem!
And please don’t give me that blather about “Oh, I don’t trust the gold ETF, blah blah blah. They’ll go bankrupt!”
Hello. They have a gold warehouse. When you buy their ETF, they go buy gold essentially matching their net monetary inflows/outflows. They have over 700 metric tons of gold in a warehouse matching their ETF deposits.
OR you could buy physical gold. Now you gotta Fed Ex that stuff back to your broker, such as KitCo in order to redeem it into dollars.
But again, you are causing yourself inconvenience because of trust issues. Why not just let Kitco hold it for you?
October 8, 2008 at 10:57 PM in reply to: How to protect against hyperinflation and destruction of the US dollar #284030stockstradr
ParticipantI’m not understanding why some people on here view liquidity of holding gold as a problem?
What am I missing here?
Take my E*TRADE account, which inludes brokerage, savings, checking, retirement accounts.
I move say $10,000 from savings into brokerage. I buy $10K in gold via the ETF (Symbol: “GLD”). Wow, that took a total of sixty seconds.
Three years later. Wow, those same gold ETF shares are worth $30,000.
Oh, I need some grocery money. OK fine.
Sell a few shares of “GLD” then transfer proceeds into checking. All online. Wow, that took another sixty seconds.
Ten minutes later at the grocery store, whip out my E*TRADE ATM card and pay for groceries with dollars that were gold only twenty minutes ago.
I don’t see the problem!
And please don’t give me that blather about “Oh, I don’t trust the gold ETF, blah blah blah. They’ll go bankrupt!”
Hello. They have a gold warehouse. When you buy their ETF, they go buy gold essentially matching their net monetary inflows/outflows. They have over 700 metric tons of gold in a warehouse matching their ETF deposits.
OR you could buy physical gold. Now you gotta Fed Ex that stuff back to your broker, such as KitCo in order to redeem it into dollars.
But again, you are causing yourself inconvenience because of trust issues. Why not just let Kitco hold it for you?
stockstradr
ParticipantHow are you and your wife getting around the AGI limit for on how much you can contribute to a Roth? Is there some loophole I’m not aware of?
we converted part of our Trad IRA to ROTH back when our incomes were under the limits. I wish we had done MORE back then.
I only have about 20% of my total retirement portfolio in that ROTH IRA.
stockstradr
ParticipantHow are you and your wife getting around the AGI limit for on how much you can contribute to a Roth? Is there some loophole I’m not aware of?
we converted part of our Trad IRA to ROTH back when our incomes were under the limits. I wish we had done MORE back then.
I only have about 20% of my total retirement portfolio in that ROTH IRA.
stockstradr
ParticipantHow are you and your wife getting around the AGI limit for on how much you can contribute to a Roth? Is there some loophole I’m not aware of?
we converted part of our Trad IRA to ROTH back when our incomes were under the limits. I wish we had done MORE back then.
I only have about 20% of my total retirement portfolio in that ROTH IRA.
stockstradr
ParticipantHow are you and your wife getting around the AGI limit for on how much you can contribute to a Roth? Is there some loophole I’m not aware of?
we converted part of our Trad IRA to ROTH back when our incomes were under the limits. I wish we had done MORE back then.
I only have about 20% of my total retirement portfolio in that ROTH IRA.
stockstradr
ParticipantHow are you and your wife getting around the AGI limit for on how much you can contribute to a Roth? Is there some loophole I’m not aware of?
we converted part of our Trad IRA to ROTH back when our incomes were under the limits. I wish we had done MORE back then.
I only have about 20% of my total retirement portfolio in that ROTH IRA.
stockstradr
ParticipantI now believe we shall see DOW 8000 before this is all over, but that could take as much as five years to hit those lows, OR it could happen next week!
My guess is that we see DOW 8000 sometime in the first 3 qtrs of next year.
stockstradr
ParticipantI now believe we shall see DOW 8000 before this is all over, but that could take as much as five years to hit those lows, OR it could happen next week!
My guess is that we see DOW 8000 sometime in the first 3 qtrs of next year.
stockstradr
ParticipantI now believe we shall see DOW 8000 before this is all over, but that could take as much as five years to hit those lows, OR it could happen next week!
My guess is that we see DOW 8000 sometime in the first 3 qtrs of next year.
stockstradr
ParticipantI now believe we shall see DOW 8000 before this is all over, but that could take as much as five years to hit those lows, OR it could happen next week!
My guess is that we see DOW 8000 sometime in the first 3 qtrs of next year.
stockstradr
ParticipantI now believe we shall see DOW 8000 before this is all over, but that could take as much as five years to hit those lows, OR it could happen next week!
My guess is that we see DOW 8000 sometime in the first 3 qtrs of next year.
stockstradr
ParticipantNow increasing my 2X long postion to 50% of portfolio.
I see signs the fool’s rally is off and running now.
But if stocks instead drop another 5% today,then I’ll go long with MORE money.
New mood in markets. October is rally month.
stockstradr
ParticipantNow increasing my 2X long postion to 50% of portfolio.
I see signs the fool’s rally is off and running now.
But if stocks instead drop another 5% today,then I’ll go long with MORE money.
New mood in markets. October is rally month.
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