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January 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM in reply to: Old Forum topic deserves re-visit: bubble in treasuries #339528January 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM in reply to: Old Forum topic deserves re-visit: bubble in treasuries #339556
stockstradr
ParticipantAs for making money on treasuries..
Told ya so. US treasuries peaked (yields bottomed) seven days after my initial post of this thread.
My first bet lost me a few percent. Later, I re-shorted with lots more money the ETF “TBT” when yields had climbed from 2.5% up to 2.7% on the 30-year.
That has been quite a money-maker for me.
I’ll bet either NOBODY or maybe one person out of all the members on this entire blog site managed to even make one thin dime on these easy-money bets:
1) long the 20+ year treasuries from mid-Nov to end of Dec (typical gain +30%, example TLT)
2) Short the 20+ year bonds from late Dec until now. (typical gain, so far, +12%, example TBT)
30-year long bond yield chart
10-yr treasury note yield chart
iShares Barclays 20+ Year Treas Bond
ProShares UltraShort Lehman Brothers 20+ Year U.S. Treasury indexJanuary 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM in reply to: Old Forum topic deserves re-visit: bubble in treasuries #339650stockstradr
ParticipantAs for making money on treasuries..
Told ya so. US treasuries peaked (yields bottomed) seven days after my initial post of this thread.
My first bet lost me a few percent. Later, I re-shorted with lots more money the ETF “TBT” when yields had climbed from 2.5% up to 2.7% on the 30-year.
That has been quite a money-maker for me.
I’ll bet either NOBODY or maybe one person out of all the members on this entire blog site managed to even make one thin dime on these easy-money bets:
1) long the 20+ year treasuries from mid-Nov to end of Dec (typical gain +30%, example TLT)
2) Short the 20+ year bonds from late Dec until now. (typical gain, so far, +12%, example TBT)
30-year long bond yield chart
10-yr treasury note yield chart
iShares Barclays 20+ Year Treas Bond
ProShares UltraShort Lehman Brothers 20+ Year U.S. Treasury indexstockstradr
ParticipantBuy and hold is so dead as an investment philosophy
w/regards western stock markets, you have made a brilliant statement above.
Here is some useful advice for average investors: dump all your stocks and stock mutual funds.
Next, ignore the market until your morning newspaper headline reads: “S&P500 CRASHES TO 600”
Then buy oil stocks, and medical / pharma, and gold miners, and agri-commodity. Try to buy those in NON dollar denominated issues, such as European companies, or better yet, Asian companies in those areas.
Keep adding to those positions as the S&P500 continues to crash lower to say 500, or worse!
Never sell those stocks, not until you retire. Also read peterb’s and Chris Scoreboards posts on the market.
Also, don’t own any dollars, except for a $100 bill to frame as a future memento of a currency that died a hyperinflation death. Frame it next to your token Zimbabwe 100 Billion Dollar note.
You’ll get rich following those tips above.
One more thing: anyone who wasn’t short stocks all through Jan is either a moron, or hasn’t been paying attention (to the world), or BOTH.
stockstradr
ParticipantBuy and hold is so dead as an investment philosophy
w/regards western stock markets, you have made a brilliant statement above.
Here is some useful advice for average investors: dump all your stocks and stock mutual funds.
Next, ignore the market until your morning newspaper headline reads: “S&P500 CRASHES TO 600”
Then buy oil stocks, and medical / pharma, and gold miners, and agri-commodity. Try to buy those in NON dollar denominated issues, such as European companies, or better yet, Asian companies in those areas.
Keep adding to those positions as the S&P500 continues to crash lower to say 500, or worse!
Never sell those stocks, not until you retire. Also read peterb’s and Chris Scoreboards posts on the market.
Also, don’t own any dollars, except for a $100 bill to frame as a future memento of a currency that died a hyperinflation death. Frame it next to your token Zimbabwe 100 Billion Dollar note.
You’ll get rich following those tips above.
One more thing: anyone who wasn’t short stocks all through Jan is either a moron, or hasn’t been paying attention (to the world), or BOTH.
stockstradr
ParticipantBuy and hold is so dead as an investment philosophy
w/regards western stock markets, you have made a brilliant statement above.
Here is some useful advice for average investors: dump all your stocks and stock mutual funds.
Next, ignore the market until your morning newspaper headline reads: “S&P500 CRASHES TO 600”
Then buy oil stocks, and medical / pharma, and gold miners, and agri-commodity. Try to buy those in NON dollar denominated issues, such as European companies, or better yet, Asian companies in those areas.
Keep adding to those positions as the S&P500 continues to crash lower to say 500, or worse!
Never sell those stocks, not until you retire. Also read peterb’s and Chris Scoreboards posts on the market.
Also, don’t own any dollars, except for a $100 bill to frame as a future memento of a currency that died a hyperinflation death. Frame it next to your token Zimbabwe 100 Billion Dollar note.
You’ll get rich following those tips above.
One more thing: anyone who wasn’t short stocks all through Jan is either a moron, or hasn’t been paying attention (to the world), or BOTH.
stockstradr
ParticipantBuy and hold is so dead as an investment philosophy
w/regards western stock markets, you have made a brilliant statement above.
Here is some useful advice for average investors: dump all your stocks and stock mutual funds.
Next, ignore the market until your morning newspaper headline reads: “S&P500 CRASHES TO 600”
Then buy oil stocks, and medical / pharma, and gold miners, and agri-commodity. Try to buy those in NON dollar denominated issues, such as European companies, or better yet, Asian companies in those areas.
Keep adding to those positions as the S&P500 continues to crash lower to say 500, or worse!
Never sell those stocks, not until you retire. Also read peterb’s and Chris Scoreboards posts on the market.
Also, don’t own any dollars, except for a $100 bill to frame as a future memento of a currency that died a hyperinflation death. Frame it next to your token Zimbabwe 100 Billion Dollar note.
You’ll get rich following those tips above.
One more thing: anyone who wasn’t short stocks all through Jan is either a moron, or hasn’t been paying attention (to the world), or BOTH.
stockstradr
ParticipantBuy and hold is so dead as an investment philosophy
w/regards western stock markets, you have made a brilliant statement above.
Here is some useful advice for average investors: dump all your stocks and stock mutual funds.
Next, ignore the market until your morning newspaper headline reads: “S&P500 CRASHES TO 600”
Then buy oil stocks, and medical / pharma, and gold miners, and agri-commodity. Try to buy those in NON dollar denominated issues, such as European companies, or better yet, Asian companies in those areas.
Keep adding to those positions as the S&P500 continues to crash lower to say 500, or worse!
Never sell those stocks, not until you retire. Also read peterb’s and Chris Scoreboards posts on the market.
Also, don’t own any dollars, except for a $100 bill to frame as a future memento of a currency that died a hyperinflation death. Frame it next to your token Zimbabwe 100 Billion Dollar note.
You’ll get rich following those tips above.
One more thing: anyone who wasn’t short stocks all through Jan is either a moron, or hasn’t been paying attention (to the world), or BOTH.
stockstradr
ParticipantI look back and this thread has de-volved into debates about security classifications at DoD vs. private sector?
You gotta be kidding.
And THAT reminds me, I am have now exceeded my self-imposed ration of ONE post per month to this ridiculous blog site.
Time to ignore this web site for at least another 30-days.
stockstradr
ParticipantI look back and this thread has de-volved into debates about security classifications at DoD vs. private sector?
You gotta be kidding.
And THAT reminds me, I am have now exceeded my self-imposed ration of ONE post per month to this ridiculous blog site.
Time to ignore this web site for at least another 30-days.
stockstradr
ParticipantI look back and this thread has de-volved into debates about security classifications at DoD vs. private sector?
You gotta be kidding.
And THAT reminds me, I am have now exceeded my self-imposed ration of ONE post per month to this ridiculous blog site.
Time to ignore this web site for at least another 30-days.
stockstradr
ParticipantI look back and this thread has de-volved into debates about security classifications at DoD vs. private sector?
You gotta be kidding.
And THAT reminds me, I am have now exceeded my self-imposed ration of ONE post per month to this ridiculous blog site.
Time to ignore this web site for at least another 30-days.
stockstradr
ParticipantI look back and this thread has de-volved into debates about security classifications at DoD vs. private sector?
You gotta be kidding.
And THAT reminds me, I am have now exceeded my self-imposed ration of ONE post per month to this ridiculous blog site.
Time to ignore this web site for at least another 30-days.
stockstradr
Participantstockstradr: She was privy to Top Secret company data as an intern? Really?
I was an engineering intern myself at Motorola (back in 1993 when it was actually a successful company)
I was amazed at the confidential information I had access to. As for the power line data, I believed that friend of mine when she told that story; she was a straight-up honest chick, also a 4.0 GPA student.
stockstradr
Participantstockstradr: She was privy to Top Secret company data as an intern? Really?
I was an engineering intern myself at Motorola (back in 1993 when it was actually a successful company)
I was amazed at the confidential information I had access to. As for the power line data, I believed that friend of mine when she told that story; she was a straight-up honest chick, also a 4.0 GPA student.
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