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spdrun…i think you already stated you don’t live here, so if you spent any time in OB, the street urchins are kids who choose not to work, and beg or demand money.

And the beach town that I spent a lot of time in as a kid didn’t have its share of such people? Right. Most stoners and homeless are harmless, if slightly irritating.

Might as well get the kid used to the fact that there are different kinds of people early. Otherwise they’ll be in for a rude awakening when they go to school in Berzerkely or Columbia!

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Because most people don’t want or have time to deal with remodel. ESPECIALLY when you have 4 young kids.

As long as everything basically works, why does one need to do a full gut remodel immediately? Slap some paint down, put down new wood or carpet, and just live in the house, fixing things as time permits.

The last house I lived in growing up had a kitchen from the 1940s. We put in a new dishwasher under the counter, re-tiled the floor eventually, and it’s still being used as a rental, as is.

BTW, kids in grades 9 and 11 are old enough to help with re-model. Learning to work with their hands rather than play with their iPad will do them some good.

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zzz:

Pot is generally harmless, though I chose not to partake till college. “Street urchins” — is that the new term for kids who actually go outside on their own, rather than sitting in their burbclave all day and surfing Fecebook and Internet pr0n?

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I don’t like the residual airport noise that prevalent in Ocean Beach. To me that is no deal right off the bat. I also think that family of 6 is going to want a larger home with a larger lot.

Agreed on the airport noise. As far as lot and house size, you’re talking about people from New England — lots and houses often are NOT large in many towns there, so it would at least be familiar.

Also, “old” for San Diego is brand spankin’ new in most New England towns. And why the horror of lifting a finger to bring a new bought house up to snuff?

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I don’t steer people, people steer me. You seem to like to make plenty of accusations and assumptions. Especially given the fact you have never lived here, never met me, nor dealt with any of my clients.

Hope you will honor the terms of our little wager.

Sorry dude, I didn’t agree to the wager, but you’re welcome to honor your end if you like!

I for one agree with bearishgurl — it’s WRONG and frankly inhumane to raise kids in a place where they have basically no autonomy until they get their driver’s license. This goes for basically any city or town. I spent a large part of my childhood in a town very similar to OB and I somehow survived.

But let’s bring this convo back to rationality. What specific reasons do you have for dis-recommending OB? Feel free to private message me if you don’t feel comfortable discussing on public forum.

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Well, he may well be steered in the “right” direction by brokers like you 🙂 I see a lot of the “don’t live there if there are People Who Don’t Look Like You(tm) walking around(*)” ‘tude in SD. Sadly. Beautiful city, but lots of ugly classism.

(*)- or anyone walking around unless they do so in La Jolla, Carlsbad, or Del Mar 🙂

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OB is very similar in character to any number of New England or Long Island beach towns (in a good way). That would surprise me not at all, considering the origin of the OP.

The “how long ago did you raise kids” argument is spurious, as crime is basically lower now than it’s been in the last 40 years.

And I spent summers 20 years ago in a town on the East Coast very similar to OB. An eclectic mix of bikies, tourists, old people, homeless vets, artists, and gay folk — the last two before they became trendy and accepted 🙂 Was biking to the beach alone or with friends to surf by the time I was 11 or 12. Fond memories here.

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So basically it’s OK to drop offers on 25 properties just to be able to go see them and get your foot in the door? That seems grossly unfair to the sellers, but I guess if people expect it, I’d be fine with doing it.

(Not that I’ve had much of a problem being shown what I wanted to see thus far.)

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Original post said “requiring ACCEPTED offer.”

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I would also think 3, 4, or 10 times about places like Ocean Beach if I were raising a family.

Why? Yeah, you get some skells and characters, but it’s less rowdy than PB. I’d say it would be broadly comparable to raising a family in parts of Brooklyn, NY.

Being a kid in an area where you can actually WALK and BIKE around without relying on Mommie and Daddie’s Taxi Service is a wonderful thing.

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The question is as follows: a lot of offers require a good faith deposit. What are the chances that a seller/scammer will deposit the check, drag their feet on returning the money if you don’t like the property, and say “see you in court, I dare you” if you complain?

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As opposed to calling up the selling broker and saying, “I want to see the house tomorrow at 1. Can you make it?” Yes, it’s a bit more difficult.

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Seems like a huge waste of time for everyone. Haven’t brokers heard the words: open house? This is up there with requiring an accepted offer to get condo financial info.

I wonder how many of the properties in MLS that are listed as “contingent” are contingent because people are just writing offers to get in the door. I’ve seen quite a few bounce back and forth between Active and Contingent about 5 times.

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Unlikely to happen on a large-scale basis:

If it’s proven that mortgages can’t be enforced, then banks won’t be able to give mortgages. With the future fate of Fannie and Freddie unknown at present, this has the potential of freezing the mortgage market in CA entirely.

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Is downtown/beachfront O’side terribly kid-friendly?

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